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Release: Nov 27, 2010 - Author: Doc Idaho - Translator: Tony Montana
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Introduction The demands of Revenge, based on the same-titled novel by Jim Harrison fromvon, were pretty high. Many well-known directors wanted to make it into a movie in the 80s, and when Tony Scott and Kevin Costner finally got the green light from the studio, it wasn't predictable how many problem they were going to face, how disappointed the movie audience was and escpecially how slim the amount of money was they were going to make at the box office. During the shooting, director Tony Scott and producer Ray Stark clashed with each other very often, almost daily. Stark, who was 30 years older than Scott, was shocked and angry about the many explicit sex scenes in the movie. But that wasn't the only issue they were arguing about. The story of Revenge isn't easy to consume anyway, escpecially the question who took revenge and why was a tough one. Stark, at least that's what Kevin Costner mentioned afterwards, wanted to shoot the movie differently to make it likable to as many as possible. Scott's intention on the other hand was to create it like he'd had it in mind. That's certainly not selfish but reasonable from the artistic POV. Regardless of the result, in most cases it's just not the right way to chum up with the audience. Movies without that intention are usually more interesting. Stark was supposed to win and "his" version, which was still anything but mainstream, was shown in movie theaters. Years later, Tony Scott got the opportunity to create his Director's Cut and release it on DVD. Even though that label released a lot of crappy different versions from several movies, the releases of many versions is really a welcome opportunity for movie lovers. Furthermore it's nice that, after so many years, director's do still care about it and restart working on old movies. Scott's Director's Cut is a real Director's Cut with a lot of differences and it's really worth being watched. Nevertheless it's not the version Scott was going to release 15 years ago. Instead it's new version according to his current ideas, similar to Helgeland's Payback. Possibly fans of the old version wouldn't like the new one because a lot of scenes from the Theatrical Version have been removed. He thought this footage wasn't necessary, so he cut out the details to come faster to the point. Due to the shortening and removal of many scenes, the Director's Cut is appox. 30 min shorter. Due to the modification that were made, the love affair of Cochrane und Miryea seems different in the Director's Cut. One could get the impression that it's just a fling, not real love, as the characters become aware of later on. Furthermore the ambivalence of the story is less obvious in the Director's Cut. Because of the reduced time of the character Tibey with his wife, the distracted viewer could overlook that it was him who got betrayed. As a result of that he doesn't get the sympathy he gets in the Theatrical Version. This was a main issue between Stark and Scott. Moreover the new version needs to earn the name Unrated, so all removed sex scenes have been put in again, added by a couple of violent scenes. For many people, the biggest point of criticism was the long two first acts, which only deal with the characters. That's where Scott started and the Director's Cut come straight to point, which makes it more accessible. Nevertheless vengeance is not the main subject of the movie, that still is the friendship of two men and Cochrane's treason. Tibey's brutal reaction is understandable Cochrane knows about it long time before it actually happens, but she just can't let Miryea loose. He's aware of his guilt, that's why he finally does not avenge himself. A future with Miryea is granted for neither of the two guys. Unrated Director's Cut: 100 min Comparison The sequence during the credits is different in either of the versions. The only relevant issue here is that the Director's Cut contains several shots of a heavily-wounded man in the desert. Jay's destiny is being anticipated.
4. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Jay and his co-pilot, who's also his best friend, in the corridor. 12 sec
6 Min Theatrical Version
7. Minute OLD: The Director's Cut contains a shot of Jay's friend at the car, the Theatrical Version contains a shot of Jay at the trailer instead. Theatrical Version 2.5 sec longer
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13. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Tibey and Jay hunting on the following morning. 3 sec
Individual elements of the dog scenes are different in either of the versions. 14. Min Theatrical Version: the dogs take a man down. 3 sec
14. Min Theatrical Version: Miryea and Jay have fun while Tibey is keeping the hunters busy. 23 sec
15. Min Theatrical Version: Still the dogs and still Tibey, who tries to fix it. 8.5 sec
15. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Ibarra being silent at dinner after Ms. Kansas said sth. stupid. 3.5 sec
16. Min Theatrical Version: Shots of the dinner. 5.5 sec
16. Min Theatrical Version: Diaz distinguishes himself clumsily. 4.5 sec
16. Min OLD: Ibarra looks irritatedly at Jay when he makes fun of him. Theatrical Version +1 sec
16. Min Theatrical Version: Miryea has eye contact with Jay. 8.5 sec
16. Min Director's Cut: Ditto, but differently. 6.5 sec
17. Min Theatrical Version: The dinner guests. 1.5 sec
17. Min Theatrical Version: Awkward silence for a moment after Tibey left the room with Ibarra and Diaz. 12 sec
17. Min Theatrical Version
22. Min Theatrical Version
22. Min OLD: Alternate shot of Cochrane on his way from the beach to his house.
22. Min Alternate
In the Director's Cut they're inside at first, mixing cocktails, then at the beach. In the Theatrical Version they're at the beach at first. 24. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot at the beach. 3 sec
25. Min Alternate
26. Min Alternate
27. Min DC: A shot of Jay at the end, before the party. 12.5 sec
28. Min Theatrical Version: a moment of the politican's party. 6 sec
28 min. Theatrical Version
Two scenes during the following scenes were re-arranged. 28 min. OLD: Different shots of Tibey dancing. Director's Cut +0.5 sec.
28 min. Director's Cut: More dancing. 7 sec.
29 min. Director's Cut: Dance. 5.5 sec.
29 min. OLD: Director's Cut contains the dance. In the theatrical version, Jay walks to the door longer Theatrical version 12.5 sec.
29 min. Director's Cut: Cesar notices that the door is shut. 6.5 sec.
29 min OLD: There are different shots of them kissing at the mirror. Director's Cut +4 sec.
30 min. Director's Cut: Tibey continues dancing. 6.5 sec.
30 min. Theatrical version: Some snugging and dancing. 18 sec.
30 min. Theatrical version: Jay and Miryea. 4 sec.
30 min. Director's Cut: She opens his pants – one can see her pubic hair. Then they kiss. 5.5 sec.
30 min. Theatrical version: Jay and Miryea. 0.5 sec.
30 min. Theatrical version: Tibey dances some more. 9 sec. 30 min. Director's Cut
31 min. OLD: Different shots of Jay throwing Miryea onto the bed. Theatrical version +2.5 sec.
31 min. Theatrical Version
34 min. Theatrical Version
34 min. OLD: Different shots of Medero, Jay's friend from the US, answering the phone. Theatrical version +13 sec.
35 min. OLD: Different shots of Jay on the phone. In the theatrical version, Medero asks when Jay had fallen in love, since he had only been in Mexico for 5 days. Again he points out that „tiburón“ meant „shark“. Nobody messes with Tibey. Theatrical version +3 sec.
36 min. Alternate
38 min. Theatrical version: Tibey is seen with Jay longer before he says goodbye. 3 sec.
39 min. Theatrical version: Tibey, looking warily, is seen in the car longer. 7.5 sec.
39 min. Theatrical version: Tibey hugs Miryea longer. 1.5 sec. 40 min. Alternate
41 min. Theatrical version: They are driving along the street in the Jeep some longer. 3 sec.
41 min. Alternate
41 min. Theatrical version: Miryea sits on Jay while he is still driving. 1.5 sec.
41 min. Director's Cut: Miryea sits on Jay while he is still driving and simultaneously touching her between the legs. 2 sec.
In the Director's Cut, one can see him pulling up her skirt and revealing her behind a few seconds later than in the theatrical verion. 41 min. Director's Cut: Jay continues caressing Miryea. 5 sec.
42 min. Director's Cut: Jay kneading her bottom. 4 sec.
42 min. Theatrical version: The two leaning against each other. 1.5 sec.
42 min. Theatrical version: Dito. 1.5 sec. 42 min. Director's Cut
43 min. Theatrical version: They have sex in the lake some longer. 4 sec.
43 min. Alternate
43 min. Director's Cut: Miryea getting ready for the next round. 3 sec.
43 min.Theatrical version
43 min. Alternate
44 min. Alternate
44 min. Director's Cut: They kiss a bit longer. 1.5 sec.
44 min.Theatrical version
45 min. Theatrical version: Jay lies on the ground longer. 0.5 sec. 45 min. Alternate
46 min. Theatrical version: Tibey is seen a moment longer. 1 sec. 46 min. Director's Cut: Jay, battered bloodily, is seen longer. After Tibey has said in both versions that he will show Jay what happens to whores, he adds in the director's cut: „Your whore.“ 8 sec.
46 min. Alternate 46 min. Director's Cut: Tibey threatens Jay with his knife. 4 sec.
46 min. Alternate
46 min. Director's Cut: Tibey holds her slashed face some longer and says "I warned you." 5 sec.
46 min. Director's Cut: Tibey is seen a moment longer. 5 sec.
47 min. Theatrical version: More shots of the burning hut. 5.5 sec.
47 min. Theatrical version: Dito. 1 sec.
48 min. Theatrical version: The scene of Miryea being brought to the brothel is longer. The bawd asks what she should do with the disfigured Miryea, save her for her best customers? The man says that she should give her to the whole world. 17 sec.
49 min. Director's Cut: Mauro the Mexican and Jay are seen in the desert. 7 sec.
51 min. Theatrical version: The old lady waves the rosary some longer. 1 sec. 56 min. Director's Cut
57 min. Alternate 57 min.Theatrical version
57 min. Director's Cut
58 min. OLD: Alternate shot of Jay driving to the city with Mauro. Theatrical version +4 sec.
62 min. Theatrical version: The cowboy looks after Jay as he goes to the bathroom. The goon Elefante, who beat Jay up in the hut and whom Jay has recognized, is seen earlier here. 6 sec.
63 min. Theatrical version: The goon resists Jay's attack longer. 3 sec.
64. Min OLD: Different shot of Jay on the bed when the cowboy leaves the room. Theatrical Version +3 sec 64. Min Alternate
66. Min OLD: Close-up of Jay waking up un the Theatrical Version, distance shot in the Director's Cut. -
72. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Jay at the reception when he books a room. 1 sec
72. Min OLD: Different footage when Jay picks up the cat of the hyterical Rock'n'Roll singer. Theatrical Version +1.5 sec
76. Min Theatrical Version: extended shot of the singer at the bar looking for Jay. 2 sec
76. Min Theatrical Version: ditto. 1 sec
77. Min Theatrical Version
80. Min Alternate
80. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Jay standing in front of the motel. 1 sec
81. Min OLD: Amador and Ignacio are switched when Jay and the casualty are in the pool. - 84. Min Director's Cut Long plot addtion in the Director's Cut with a running time of almost 4 min. Antonio watches Jay leaving the cathouse, he silently calls "Stop, stop ...".
Cesar brings Miryea to the convent. The nun says to Cesar to tell Tibey he was going to be involved in the prayers.
The three avengers watch Tibey but he doesn't lead them to Miryea. Jay becomes impatient. Amador notices Tibey has a new bodyguard. He knows he's a killer beyond control becaus he knows him.
Tibey gives Ramon a proper talking because he's the one who raped his wife. He worked for him for 11 years and he was always treated well. Nevertheless he doesn't show him any respect at all. Tibey can understand Ramon raped his wife, but Ramon spreads around he's going to kill her. And that goes way too far. Miryea is still Tibey's wife. Tibey aims at Ramon's head, Ramon falls on his kneels whimperingly. Tibey lets up on him and leaves. The recently-hired killer takes him out.
88. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Amador at the last meeting. 0.5 sec 88. Min Theatrical Version
91. Min Theatrical Version: Further shot of the killer watching Jay. 1.5 sec
91. Min Alternate
93. Min OLD: Alternate footage when Jay and Tibey are standing face to face. Theatrical Version +3 sec
94. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Jay walking to Miryea's bed. 6 sec
94. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of Jay bending over Miryea. 8 sec
94. Min Theatrical Version: ditto 4.5 sec
96. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of him holding her in his arms. 7 sec
96. Min Theatrical Version: ditto. 2 sec
97. Min Theatrical Version: Extended shot of holding her in his arms after she died. 4 sec
Different transition to the final credits. |