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Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, The

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  • Theatrical Version
  • Extended Version
Release: Nov 12, 2014 - Author: Muck47 - Translator: TheHutt - external link: IMDB
03:27 / 03:27-04:49

The dialogue between Gandalf and Thorin is longer. There is a flashback to the battle from Film 1, where Thrain tries to persuade Thorin not to pursue Azog after he killed Thror.

Gandalf: "Thrain."
Thorin: "You're like the others. You think he is dead."
Gandalf: "I was not at the Battle of Moria."
Thorin: "No, but I was."
The flashback starts and we hear Thorin's voiceover: "My grandfather, Thror, was slain."
After Azog throws Thror's head on the ground, Thorin cries: "No! Father."
Thrain: "Stay back."
Thorin: "No. I will fight with you."
Thrain: "Azog means to kill us all. One by one, he will destroy the line of Durin. But by mine's life, he shall not take my son. You will stay here."
Again, Thorin's voiceover: "My father led a charge towards the Dimrill Gate. He never returned. 'Thrain is gone', they told me. 'He is one of the fallen.' But at the end of that battle, I searched amongst the slain. To the last body. My father was not among the dead."

81,8 sec (= 1:22 min)




Alternative scene
03:31-03:38 / 04:53-05:27

In the Theatrical Edition (=TE) Gandalf is visible half a second longer; then, Thorin's reply is shown in an alternative take. He says the same text, "He still lives, I am sure of it!", but in the Extended Edition (=EE) he sounds more determined. Then, in the TE we see Gandalf in a closeup, as the waitress brings him his mug. In the Extended Edition there is some more dialogue instead.

Gandalf: "The ring your grandfather wore, one of the seven given the Dwarf-lords many years ago, what became of it?"
Thorin: "He gave it to my father before they went into battle."
Gandalf: "So Thrain was wearing it when he... When he went missing."

Extended Edition 27,2 sec longer

Theatrical Edition Extended Edition




Theatrical Edition is longer
14:06-14:20 / 15:55

After Beorn has turned into a human, there is a small scene with Bilbo which was removed from the Extended Edition: he is lying in the house and sees Beorn enter.

+ 14,7 sec




14:25 / 16:00-16:04

Another shot of the idyllic landscape and some wood chopping.

3,8 sec




14:37 / 16:15-16:16

The bee comes in from farther to the right.

1,1 sec


Digital effect
14:38-14:47 / 16:17-16:26

The rest of the shot where Bilbo is coming forth is basically the same. However, there are different things happening in the background. In the TE we see the whole group of dwarves sitting around the table. In the EE there is a longer additional scene (see its description right after this), therefore we see the dwarves standing together and walking out to the right.

No time difference

KinofassungExtended Version




14:47 / 16:26-20:56

More wood chopping and some discussion among the dwarves. Gandalf tries to comfort them; the dwarves discuss the possibility of fleeing from Beorn. Gandalf is reluctant as well; however, he comes out and speaks with Beorn. He describes the situation of his companions who appear in small numbers. Beorn is not amused that all of them are dwarves. Then Thorin appears; Beorn looks as if he recognizes him.

Nori: "Well, I say we should leg it. Slip out the back way."
Dwalin: "I'm not running from anyone, beast or no."
Gandalf: "There is no point in arguing. We cannot pass through the Wilderland without Beorn's help. We'll be hunted down before we ever get to the forest. Ah, Bilbo. There you are. Now, this will require some delicate handling. We must tread very carefully. The last person to have startled him was torn to shreds. I will go first and... Uh, Bilbo? You come with me."
Bilbo: "Is this a good idea?"
Gandalf: "Yes. Now, the rest of you, you just wait here and don't come out until I give the signal."
Bofur: "Right. Wait for the signal."
Gandalf: "And no sudden moves or loud noises, and don't overcrowd him. And only come out in pairs. Right. No, actually, Bombur, um, you count as two so you should come out alone. Remember, wait for the signal."
Several dwarves: "The signal. Right."
Bofur: "What signal would that be?"
The other dwarves look as puzzled as he is.


Gandalf and Bilbo walk to Beorn, and Bilbo remarks: "You're nervous."
Gandalf is nervous, but hides it: "Nervous? What, nonsense."
Beorn is chopping wood, and Gandalf has to repeat several times: "Good morning. Good morning!"
Beorn: "Who are you?"
Gandalf: "I'm Gandalf. Gandalf the Grey."
Beorn: "Never heard of him."
Gandalf: "I'm a Wizard. Perhaps you've heard of my colleague Radagast the Brown. He resides in the southern borders of Mirkwood."
Beorn: "What do you want?"
Gandalf: "Well, simply to thank you for your hospitality. You may have noticed that we took refuge in your lodgings here last night."
Beorn looks at Bilbo: "Who is this little fellow?"
Gandalf: "Well, this would be Mr. Baggins from the Shire."
Beorn: "He's not a Dwarf, is he?"
Gandalf: "Why, no. No, he's a Hobbit. A good family and unimpeachable reputation."
Beorn: "A Halfling and a Wizard. How come you here?"
Gandalf: "Oh, well, the fact is that we've had a bad time of it from Goblins in the mountains."
Beorn: "What did you go near Goblins for? Stupid thing to do."
Gandalf: "You are absolutely right."



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