Release: Dec 18, 2016 - Author: Muck47 - Translator: Tony Montana - external link: IMDB
Compared are the Theatrical Version and the Extended Version (both available on the German Blu-ray by Warner Home Video)
- 18 differencs, among them 2 with alternate footage
- Length difference: 695.8 sec (= 11:36 min)
After Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad was the third installment of the so-called "DC Extended Universe". Even before its release, the movie was quite controversal: Despite its darker tone due to a group of criminals as lead characters, it became common knowledge that the movie was shot in a way that guaranteed a family-friendly PG-13 rating. This was also the case with Batman v Superman and the much harder and contentwise different Extended Cut made it clear how many alterations were required in order to get the lower PG-13 rating. In said Extended Version, the lack of loosening scenes was an issue but if the news regarding Suicide Squad that reshoots in order to make the movie "funnier" made people cheer is doubtful at the very least.
However, the visual appeal of the Extended Cut is limited and with numerous odd characters, the result is rather tame. The room for background stories and conflicts within the squad has its limits and alterations for a mainstream audience do no enhance the movie quality either. On the contrary, some of the one-liners are just embarrassing. But all that nagging and complaining both before and after watching the movie is only the one side of the coin. The other side would be a box office result of $745 millions which put Suicide Squad on rank 8 of the 10 most successful movies of the year 2016 (right behind Batman v Superman and Deadpool).
Considering this quite satisfying result, the home theater release is not what to be expected because the announced Extended Cut was a way to shut up all the naggers. Reminder: Director David Ayer (probably as reaction to the development of Batman v Superman) announced several times that his Theatrical Version would be released when Suicide Squad hit theaters - for instance here:
Does the almost 12 minutes longer Extended Version contain any added interesting footage at all? Not to mention more violence or the footage from the teasers/trailers that was missing in the Theatrical Version?
The Extended Version
Well, the answer is simple: Footage removed for censorship is nowhere to be found in the Extended Version. Contentwise, a new path has not been struck either. In other words, odds are that if you did not like the Theatrical Version, you will not be thrilled by the Extended Version either. Apparently, a few scenes were removed for pace reasons and those are back in the movie now. But on the other hand, the Extended Version does contain a few new scenes that are not exactly redundant for character development and context and since several Blu-ray releases worldwide contain both versions, one can pick.
Most of the additional footage are additional scenes with Harley and The Joker. Due to its limited screentime cmpared to the trailers or simply because of the performance by Jared Leto (to be fair, Heath Ledger did an outstanding job and playing the same character with that in mind is a tough one), The Joker got critized quite often. Thanks to more heated debates in the scene at the beginning and an additional flashback in the middle of the movie, their relationship has more depth now. In addition to that, it is quite obvious that poster girl Harley comes up with more schemes and she now has more one-liners as well. It looks like the producers bowed to the fans's arguments.
Furthermore, the codependency of Deadshot and Flag is an issue in the new scenes. If this was smart from a dramaturgical point of view is anyone's guess but the result is more character depth for the very popular caharcter Deadshot. El Diablo gets to be a little more bad-ass as well resp. he gets to mention it critically to Deadshot at the bar. All in all, it makes a few more minutes but the focus of the new footage is definately on Harley and The Joker.
Last but not least, there are minor alterations every now and then. Killer Croc gets to throw up in the chopper (more like another reason for a further one-liner by Harley though) and his introduction is also a little bit more detailled and director David Ayer has a small cameo as well. There are also a few more reaction shots of Katana and Captain Boomerang. But like I said before, those are just minor alterations.
Time index refers to
Theatrical Version Blu-ray / Extended Version Blu-ray
10:21 / 10:21-10:43
The Joker speaks to Harley: "You helped me by erasing my mind what in memories I had! Now, you left me in a black hole of rage and confusion. Am I not the medicine you practice, Dr. Quinzel?"
10:41 / 11:03-11:10
He also says a few words before Harley gets juiced: "I wouldn't want you to break those perfect porcelain cap teeth when the juice hits your brain."
15:46-15:52 / 16:15-16:41
The Theatrical Version only shows the strike force showing up and opening the gully cover.
Killer Croc is more detailled in the Extended Version. The strike force walks around longer and they open the gully cover after a little discussion.
Griggs: "Yo, K.C! It's supper. Go ahead, open that up, B. Got something real nice for you today, boy."
Colleague (apparently the director listed as "Smitty" in the credits): "Hey boss, is it true he chewed the dude's hand off?"
Griggs points at the hand of another colleague behind him: "Look at that, right there, vulcanized rubber."
Extended Version 20.3 sec longer
15:57 / 16:46-16:48
Close-up of Griggs saying: "Don't make me get you."
16:05 / 16:56-17:06
The colleague reaches earlier for the half pig.
Before that, Griggs says: "There you are, are you hungry? You want some food? Go ahead, feed the man. What are you in the mood for tonight? I got a double cheese burger, onion rings, a little coleslaw. Or a giant skinless goat?"
As a consequence thereof, the Theatrical Version lacks the comment from the off.
16:07-16:10 / 17:08-17:28
When the half pig hits the ground, all the shots lack a few frames.
But more important, the last one is much longer: Killer Croc grabs the cadaver, makes a few steps forward and starts eating off-screen.
HERE, we then have the monster comment in the Extended Version as well.
Extended Version 17.1 sec
22:26 / 23:44-24:05
After the meeting, there is a scene with Deadshot in his cell remenbering his daughter. A comment of hers is audible from the off: "I know you do bad things. Don't worry. I still love you."
23:56 / 25:35-25:43
Two shots of the escort to the yard.
48:38 / 50:25-50:38
The flight in the chopper is a little longer: Killer Croc feels nauseated and throws up.
Captain Boomerang: "Hey. Is he supposed to be green like that?"
Then he actually throws up.
Harley: "Oh. Party foul. Not cool."
52:44 / 54:44-56:30
Additional night vision goggles shot plus Harley recrutes Captain Boomerang for her plan. The latter also talks to El Diablo who is a bit sceptical. When Captain Boomerang intends to keep walking up to Killer Croc, El Diablo warns him but Captain Boomerang does not care. Shortly afterwards, Captain Boomerang gets pushed aside by Killer Croc.
Harley: "So, I'm thinking if we move together we can kill all of these guys and go our separate ways, yeah?"
Captain Boomerang: "Sounds good."
Harley: "Spread the word."
Captain Boomerang approaches El Diablo: "Psst, hoy. Hoy. We need your help, man. When the time is right, you hit Flag with a fireball, he'll be too busy burning to death to have a go at us with his final doom."
El Diablo: "Then what?"
Captain Boomerang: "Then we get out of here."
El Diablo: "And do what?"
Captain Boomerang: "What are you, a bloody socker? Ease with all the questions. Freedom, man. Freedom, you remember that, don't you?"
El Diablo: "We're criminals, you know that, right?"
Captain Boomerang: "Yeah, it's great. Come on, do the bastard."
When he keeps walking at Killer Croc, El Diablo says: "Hey, be careful. He eats people."
Captain Boomerang: "Solemn mother superia, what?"
El Diablo: "He eats people for reals, homie. He's a cannibal."
Harley gets to El Diablo but he rejects her: "No."
Captain Boomerang then walks up to Killer Croc and gets pushed aside.
Harley wants to know: "What did you say to him?"
Captain Boomerang: "Nothing. Just having a laugh. No worries."
106.4 sec (= 1:46 min)
60:09 / 63:55-64:47
Deadshot walks forward a little longer. Then he talks to Flag resp. he tries to convince him to get the squad focussed on their common goal.
Flag: "Hey, Deadshot, I've been thinking. We don't come together, no one walking out of here alive."
Deadshot: "Mm. And?"
Flag: "These people respect you, you got influence."
Deadshot: "What's your threat right now?"
Flag: "You're a man of your word, right? I want my mission. And you want your life and your kid back. You help me keep this motley corporate in line, I'll hook you up."
Deadshot: "While there is the puppet master, you ain't got shit to hook me up with."
Flag: "I got plenty of my own strings to pull. You just get me to the top of that target building and get my rescuee on that extraction helo..."
Deadshot: "And you're going to make sure I get paid?"
Flag: "Yeah, you get paid. You get paid and you get your fresh start."
60:29 / 65:07-69:54
Long sequence: Three additional scenes in a row.
Flag longer and Deadshot asks if he knew who was up there.
Deadshot: "Flag, who's up there?"
Flag: "It's none of your concern."
Deadshot: "Do you know who's up there?"
Deadshot: "The president?"
Flag: "It's not the president..."
Haley is getting worried and the result is a flashback of her confronting The Joker out of jealousy. According to her, she had always done anything he had told her to do. But of course, The Joker is not impressed and during a longer conversation on the street, she shoots an innocent truck driver in the middle of it.
Harley: "You're not leaving me. You're not leaving me!"
Joker: "You, you, you are a pain in the ass."
Harley: "I have done everything you said, every test, every trial, every initiation. I have proved I love you, just accept it."
Joker: "Gada gada gada ga... I am not someone who is...loved. I'm an idea, state of mind. I excute my will according to my plan and you... Doctor, are not part of my plans."
Harley: "Please let me in. I promise... Let me in. I promise I won't hurt you."
Meanwhile, the honking truck driver got out of his truck: "Hey, dickface! Mind screaming at your bitch somewhere else."
Harley reaches for the gun in The Joker's jacket and shoots him.
Joker: "I was going to say, I wouldn't do that if I were you."
She puts the gun right to his head and The Joker says: "Don't hurt me. I'll be your friend. Do it. Do, do, do, do, do it."
Harley: "My heart scares you and a gun doesn't?"
Joker: "DO IT! If you weren't so crazy, I'd think you're insane. Go... away."
Subsequently, Harley teases Killer Croc on the street. When he rejects her, she talks to the other members of the squad as well. At the end of the day, Deadhshot sets her straight.
Harley (to Killer Croc): "Why do you eat people?"
Killer Croc: "Give me power."
Harley: "Would you like to eat me?"
Killer Croc: "Hell, no."
Harley: "Aw, why not?"
Killer Croc: "I don't want your crazy."
Harley: "Says the guys who lives in a sewer."
Killer Croc: "At least I know it's a sewer."
Harley: "Oh, I get it. Because it's like, this is a sewer too. Only with nice shops and restaurants, right? You hate mankind much? Let me guess. Mommy didn't take you to Chuck E. Cheese on your 6th birthday. I can recommend a good therapist."
El Diablo interferes: "Why?"
Harley: "Because I'm bored. I need a victim, a mind to pry apart and spit in."
Captain Boomerang: "You just leave it, mate. She's a rabbit hole, don't fall in."
Harley goes to Katana: "And here's one now. Japanese, female, mid-twenties, 5 foot 5, good health, athletic and... an only child, with deep seeded father issues. Daddy wanted a son, so she has to hide behind a mask."
Katana takes off her mask: "I am not... hiding."
Harley: "Yeah, that was gangster."
Deadshot takes her aside: "Harley, why don't you stop acting like a drunken stripper."
Harley: "You want to tell me what the hell is going on then? Because... I smell a rat."
Deadshot: "If they don't blow our heads off, we'll have to fight our way out of this city. I need you to play nice with the other children."
Harley: "And quietly return to my cage. Sure. Okay. Hey, that's okay. Sellout, I get it. Like you. I know how the world works, okay? And when it comes to the heart, everyone for themselves, right?"
all in all 287 sec (= 4:47 min)
82:45 / 92:10-92:57
The scene at the bar starts earlier: Killer Croc is a little depresssed and Harley tries to cheer him up resp. takes care of the entire squad by being the waitress.
Harley: "What's you having, KC?"
Deadshot: "Bloody mary, right?"
King Croc: "Rick goes to mind."
Harley: "KC, it's the end of the world. Have a drink with us."
King Croc raises is eyebrow: "Beer."
Captain Boomerang: "There he is. Give the man a B."
Harley: "How about you, hot stuff?"
El Diablo: "Water."
Harley: "That's a good idea, honey. Ninja, you want some sake?"
Deadshot points at his tiny glass: "What am I, twelve?"
83:05 / 93:17-93:24
Another shot at the bar, Captain Boomerang says: "I actually prefer to think of myself as an asset relocation specialist."
83:10 / 93:29-93:36
El Diablo also says: "We weren't picked to succeed, you know that, right? We were all chosen to fail."
Deadshot a little earlier: "Yeah, I know that."
83:24-83:31 / 93:50-94:27
The conversation is a little shorter in the Theatrical Version plus the order of events is sligtly alternate in order to for it to be a better fit.
In the Extended Version, Harley also asks: "So, you're going to tell us now what your big deal with Flag was."
Deadshot: "Same thing Waller offered me, to kill you. Chance to be a father. Chance to have a life outside the shadows. I trusted Flag."
El Diablo puts his foot down: "Flag had you chasing a carrot on a stick, homie, you don't know that?"
Harley: "I love this guy."
El Diablo: "You played yourself, dawg."
Deadshot: "Bitch, I'm having a drink. I'm... breathing fresh air. (For 2 sweet seconds...)"
In the Theatrical Version, the previous shot of Deadshot is a little longer instead and the cut to calm El Diablo is also different.
Last but not least, hthe close-up of Deadshot starts earlier and here, her says "For 2 sweet seconds..."
Extended Version 30 sec longer
92:21 / 103:17-103:57
Deadshot, Flag and El Diablo longer in the hallway. They are having a chat.
Flag: "You must really love this girl. And I thought love was bullshit, getting serious. Desire, mutual benefit whatever. I mean, I get that, but... actual love? I mean, I rated that with UFOs. A lot of believers, no proof. And then I met June."
Deadshot: "Do what you got to do. I got your back."
Subsequent to the end credits, director David Ayer's little cameo as "Smitty" is being mentioned.