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Stargate SG-1: Children of the Gods

Comparison:

  • Original Version
  • Final Cut (Part 2)
Release: Oct 17, 2010 - Author: Jason - Translator: Tony Montana - external link: IMDB
The complete intro can be found in Part 1 of this comparison.


Here just a couple of words how this comparison has been structured: first the content of the scene related to the differences that were made. The most important things, which are NOT related to some old missing scenes or some new scenes and which are things like alternate angles of the same scene, alternate order of the scenes with the same running time, are mentioned briefly and, if necessary, the impact of this is being described. Below this description one can the length of the Original Version & the Final Cut. Then a listing of the scene apart from all the alternate footage aditionally ONLY in one of the versions plus the lenght of the difference, as usual. Some examples for alternate footage with the same plot or increased special effects are being given here and there. Alternate footage, which really changes the content (e.g. the glider fight in the final sequence), is being mentioned without any exception of course. There's no time index of the whereabouts in the movie - it wouldn't make any sense because in a lot of cases it's pretty hard to define for the other version. As a result of that the info would be pretty unprecise, so we decided to go without it.




Compared are the Original Version of the Pilot, represented by the German DVD (FSK 16), and the Final Cut, also released by MGM/20th Century Fox and represented by the UK DVD (BBFC 15).

Running time Original Version:1:33:05 (1:31:52 credits excluded)
Running time Final Cut:1:28:23 (1:26:06 credits excluded)
Die Chulak-Mission



The final briefing of the Chulak mission, Ferretti's identification of the symbols and the trip to Chulak have the same structure in both versions, nevertheless both are different. Especially the briefing contains dozens of alternate shots of the people, which are shown momentarily, and alternate angles as well. The other two scenes contains less differences like that. Some already existing shots are longer in the Original Version.

Original Version:5 min 20 sec
Final Cut:4 min 33 sec





Final Cut
Hammond also says the enemy was in possession of a superior technology the humans didn't know about.
6.5 sec



Original Version
Extended shot of Ferretti when he identifies the symbols of Chulak gate coordinates.
10 sec



Original Version
General Hammond informs the SG-Team members that the transmitter codes for the Iris would be blocked forever after 24 hrs. and that it would be impossible to return then.
17 sec



Original Version
Distance shot of the room with the gate, the vehicle keeps on driving to the gate. The screen display the molecular decomposition of the vehicle & the bodies of the passengers after passing the event horizon.
6 sec




The arrival at Chulak contains slight differences in the order of the scenes. Furthermore some alternate takes have been used, the content itself remains unchanged. No additional footage in either of the versions.
Here it's getting more complicated: now a scene in the Original Version, which can be compared with the scene when the blond soldier is being picked up for the presentation. But this time it's Sha're being picked up by Teal'c. This scene doesn't excist in the Final Cut. Instead the Final Cut shows the presentation itself here, which appears later in the Original Version. Then the rest of the scene in front of the Stargate on Chulak in the Original Version. They start for checking out the recently discovered path. In comparison to the Final Cut, almost every shot is different. Sometimes it has been shot more distantly, sometimes less. Some alternate shots of the action/the people in it, additional footage hasn't been used in either of the versions.

Original Version:1 min 45 sec
Final Cut:1 min 31 sec





Original Version
Teal'c sneaks a peek at the kidnapped women in the room and he gets caught when he sees Sha're sitting there. He implies to take her with, the henchmen drag her out of there reluctantly.
16 sec




Then the presentation of Sha're as a host for the queen in the Original Version. The Final Cut lacks, as already mentioned before, Teal'c picking her up. Furthermore all nudity-containing shots have been replaced by way more family-friendly shots. In comparison to the Original Version, the order of some scenes has been changed plus some scenes are slightly shorter in the Final Cut. Finally, Teal'c's reaction to Amaunet's taking possession of Sha're is different in both versions. It makes much more sense in the Final Cut, especially in relation to the following development of the story.

Original Version:2 min 39 sec
Final Cut:2 min 22 sec





Original Version
Sha're is being dragged into the sanctuary.
4 sec



The infamous (partial) Full Frontal Nudity Scene: In the Final Cut, any scene of Sha're being totally nude/her breasts have been modified via zoom or have been completely removed.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Original Version
Extended shot of the Goa'uld larva gliding out of Jamita.
4 sec



Final Cut
Shot of Teal'c, he looks tense.
3 sec



Final Cut
Same here, but this time closer.
3 sec

Original Version
Apophis seems to be relieved.
2.5 sec



In the Original Version, Teal'c doesn't seem to care about Sha're being taken in possession by Amaunet. In the Final Cut instead, he seems to be worried and shakes his head. A clear sign that he doesn't like what is going on.

Original Version:Final Cut:




The confrontataion with the believers and the banquet at the temple including the SG-Team being taken hostages by Apophis are contenual the same, but lots of alternate footage/takes have been used. Furthermore the Final Cut contains some extended scenes, which didn't happen very often so far.

Original Version:5 min 21 sec
Final Cut:6 min 28 sec





Final Cut
O'Neill asks Carter if the strangers had weapons, she replies they didn't.
3 sec



Final Cut
Daniel says those were believers.
2 sec



Different color filter in the external shot of the temple to make it look more homogenously.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Final Cut
Additional shot of the hosts coming down the stairs after their presentation.
2 sec



Final Cut
A distance shot in the Final Cut, Sam also says "Unbelievable". Daniel adds that seemed to be hell of a banquet and they were expecting someone.
8 sec



Final Cut
O'Neill also orders to look around.
3 sec



Final Cut
Teal'c steps forward from the row to announce Apophis with a nice pitch.
10 sec



Final Cut
The hosts welcome Apophis & and his entourage by bowing down.
2 sec



Final Cut
Additional shot of O'Neill & Sam.
2 sec




Now a short cutscene of General Hammond & Samuels in the Original Version. This scene appears later in the Final Cut. To be exact, the cell sequence is being intercut by it. The Original Version is also longer here and slightly alternate footage has been used.

Original Version:29 sec
Final Cut:22 sec





Original Version
Hammond asks if the Stargate Center still got news from the SG-Teams when the Iris is closed. Samuels confirms and adds those news could also had been sent by the aliens.
9 sec




The beginning of the scene in the cell contains some alternate shots, but apart from that, it just attracts attention due to the strongly extended scenes in the Final Cut. As a result of that, the plot appears to be more logical. Furthermore the Original Version contains some unfortunate details, due to the missing footage (e.g. Daniel is not wearing glasses in the first shot, but in the next shot he is / in the last shot of O'Neill, Daniel partially appears in the image, then it's over). To sum it up one can say that the story line of the Final Cut is the better one here.

Original Version:1 min 47 sec
Final Cut:3 min 13 sec





The parts of the following shot, which are written cursively, appear later, when the scene in the cell continues (right before the Goa'ulds enter the cell), in the Original Version. The running time of this footage has not been added to the running time of the extended scene in the Final Cut. The rest is Final Cut exclusive.

Final Cut
Now an extension: Daniel suddenly suffers aches and pains, so that he moans and bends. Sam takes him to the side and summarizes what has happened before.
She accidentally calls the enemy Ra, that's why Daniel explains to her that was Apophis. He continues Ra was the god of the sun and Apophis the god of the snakes and the lord of the night and both were enemies. He finally says that was what's in the book of the dead at least.
Daniel wants to dash off and search for Sha're, but Sam can hold him back and reminds him of her glowing eyes. Daniel comes up with a lame excuse, he says he could possibly be a drug. Sam rejects that resolutely and explains there was a parasit inside her body, just the same what had happened to Ra. Daniel still refuses to believe that.
34 sec

Final Cut:


Original Version: / Final Cut:


Final Cut:



Final Cut
O'Neill advises Daniel to rest. Then he asks Carter if she still had the transmitter, which is being confirmed. O'Neill explains they would presumably have to destroy it.
13.5 sec



Final Cut
O'Neill adds it wasn't in her interest that Apocap controlled the transmitter. Sam explains Apophis still didn't have the code and there were half a million of perl mutations. O'Neill resigningly tells her to not take it personally, but the enemies seemed to be way smarter than themselves.
12.5 sec



Final Cut
Teal'c leaves the cell.
6 sec



Final Cut
O'Neill also says he liked him. Daniel asks rhetorically what kind of appearance that was and Jack replies he didn't know. He tells Skaara to come along, Daniel & Sam are confused and stay where they are.
20 sec




The cutscene in the camp is slightly alternate, but apart from that it's identical. Subsequent to that, the short conversation between General Hammond & Samuels in the Final Cut already shown up in the Original Version.

Original Version:40 sec
Final Cut:33 sec





Now a more artifical-looking shot in the Final Cut, shot more distantly.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Final Cut
The soldiers watch Kawalsky leaving angrily.
4 sec




The continuation of the scene in the cell, when the children of the gods are being chosen, contains dozens of alternate shots of all participants. In spite of the same story lines, the Original Version shows different people almost all the time. Furthermore the order of some shots has been changed and different angles for the same shot have been used as well.
Generally, the Final Cut is more consolidated and better edited, redundant footage has been removed, the plot is more coherant.

Original Version:5 min 15 sec
Final Cut:5 min 3 sec





Original Version
Shot of O'Neill.
2 sec



Original Version
Shot of the SG-1 Team.
3 sec



Original Version
Additional shot of Teal'c stepping through the rows plus a shot of O'Neill.
5.5 sec



Final Cut
A further child of Gods is being selected and taken away. Shot of gloomily-looking Sam and O'Neill.
7 sec



Final Cut
Daniel's statement, that sth. of the host had to survive, is being responded to by the Goa'uld with the word "Nothing!"
2 sec



Final Cut
The Goa'uld's wife looks around more precisely, then she pushes him away. Several shots of gloomily-looking Sam & Skaara and Daniel on the ground.
12.5 sec



Original Version
O'Neill calls for Skaara more often, Sam & Daniel look horrified.
2.5 sec



Final Cut
Additional shot of Teal'c looking insecure.
2 sec

Final Cut
Teal'c grimaces, reacts indecisively to Apophis' order to kill the other captives.
3 sec



Original Version
Apophis & Sha're/Amaunet leave earlier.
3 sec



Original Version
Extended shot of them leaving plus extended shot of the closing cell door. Then a shot of a captive.
4.5 sec



Original Version
The gate finally closes, distance shot of Teal'c and the snake guards running to each other.
3 sec



Original Version
Close-up of a luminous guard's eye, many captives hide behind the helpless-seeming SG-Team.
3.5 sec



Final Cut
Shot of Sam & Daniel.
2 sec




The scene where O'Neill & Teal'c defeat the guards contains some single shots in a different order plus slightly different angles in the Final Cut. Apart from that, both version are identical. The beginning escape to the gate contains less noteworthy differences.

Original Version:2 min 58 sec
Final Cut:3 min 39 sec





Final Cut
Daniel regains consciousness.
2 sec



Final Cut
Shot of still doubtfully-looking Teal'c.
3 sec



Original Version
Additional shot of Teal'c and O'Neill.
3 sec



Original Version
Additional shot of the escapees.
2.5 sec




Showdown



Final Cut
Sam asks Teal'c why he had gotten involved in it. Teal'c replies the Goa'ulds were nothing but conquerers and not worth being worshipped and receiving sacrifices. He adds humans were the first who had almost the power the Goa'ulds had. Daniel doesn't understand, Teal'c continues they were strong, probably strong enough to destroy the Goa'ulds. O'Neill & the rest of the crew notice a louder-getting conversation. One of the two gliders flies above the group.
22.5 sec




The spaceship's approaching at the Stargate has been split up in the Original Version, the group's/groups' dropping off in front of the gate appears later. It is a non-interruptable scene in the Final Cut, that's why it's going to be mentioned like that in the following. Group's/groups' because in the Original Version, the Goa'uld, Skaara and Apophis and his entourage are being dropped off in front of the gate, just before Apophis and his entourage are being carried to the top. In the Final Cut, the Goa'uld's and the others' drop off in front of the gate is non-existent.

Here the reediting of the plot in the Final Cut makes much more sense. In the Original Version, the other Goa'uld and Apophis come out of the same ship from time to time, which is really inappropriate. Moreover the Goa'uld, Skaara & Co. are being dropped off just in front of the Stargate. After a fight with the glider, O'Neill, the rest of the team and the escapees STILL encounter the group, who obviously couldn't make it to the gate in the Original Version, which is really really odd.

Original Version:1 min 28 sec
Final Cut:41 sec





The effects of the Stargate-approaching ship, which is sth. undefinable in the Original Version and the Apohis' Al'kesh in the Final Cut, have been improved. Furthermore the Al'kesh is being attended by the two gliders in the Final Cut.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Original Version
Two shots of some escapees.
4 sec



Original Version
The Goa'uld, who has chosen Skaara, and his entourage are being dropped off in front of the gate. The second shot of the rings doesn't excist in the Final Cut because only Apophis and entourage are being dropped off in that version. The ring sequence, which shows Skaara's drop-off in the Original Version, has been used here.
18.5 sec



In the Original Version, the ship is being tranformed to the glider SG-1 is fighting with later. In the Final Cut, Al'kesh remains above the gate while the other gliders are moving on.

Original Version:Final Cut:




Due to the different situation with the ship/ Al'kesh in the Final Cut, the SG-Team & Teal'c have to deal with two gliders while it's just one in the Original Version. That's why all intercuts of the single glider have been replaced by shots of both in the Final Cut. The effects in the Final Cut have been improved because they were produced much later.

Original Version:2 min 19 sec
Final Cut:2 min 6 sec





In the Original Version, the single glider attacks. In the Final Cut, it's two (logically).

Original Version:Final Cut:



Ditto. Moreover the improved laser effects can be recognized pretty good.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Again a single glider in the Original Version and two in the Final Cut. In the Original Version, the glider returns and reattacks. In the Final Cut, the second glider makes a tricky maneuver.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Different footage of the approaching glider.

Original Version:Final Cut:



In the Original Version, the hits ricochet at the shell of the glider. The glider fires back at the people and causes explosions on the gound in an additional shot. In the Final Cut, a wing of the glider gets hit by a laser ray, the glider produces a lot of smoke while it's sinking slowly. The second glider keeps on shooting with no mercy.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Shot of the glider in the Original Version. In the Final Cut, the sinking glider still produces smoke and the other one performs a twist of 180 degrees.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Now the scene with Apophis opening a wormhole at the gate in the Original Version. Basically the same in the Final Cut, but the beginning of the first shot, where Apophis & Sha're/Amaunet are on his way to the gate, appears earlier (the scene has been split up in two in the Final Cut). The Original Version is longer in the existing shots.

Original Version
Shot of the Skaara Fraction.
2.5 sec



Final Cut
SG-2 arrives on the hill and duck.
2 sec



Different footage of the reapproaching glider.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Final Cut
Kawalsky gives the order to (re)adjust.
1.5 sec



Different footage of the firing glider being under attack.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Final Cut
The order to shoot is being issued.
1.5 sec



Original Version
The explosion of the glider in a closer askance shot.
1.5 sec



Final Cut
Addtional shot of Apophis & Sha're/Amaunet insecure-looking to the crash site before they go to the gate (the shot of them turning around in front of the gate and looking back was also in the Original Version, directly after the collison of the exploding glider). The Al'kesh turns around and leaves.
12 sec




The finale sequence in front of the gate has been cut very differently in the Final Cut. Again dozens of alternate shots. Another aspect is that the order of the scenes has been entirely changed, a lot of the pace-reducing footage has been removed to make the showdown more compact. That's why a lot of the footage refering to these scenes have been converted. In the Final Cut, the Goa'uld soldiers attack right after Skaara's disappearance. At the end of the showdown, the violence has been slightly reduced by editing the footage. Actually, that can only be recognized by comparing it directly.

Original Version:7 min 20 sec
Final Cut:4 min 53 sec





Original Version
Closer shot of the Skaara Fraction going to the Stargate.
3 sec



Original Version
Additional shot of Teal'c & O'Neill, then the Stargate Center. Samuels comes into Hammond's office and explains the 24 hrs. were run out and Stargate was ready for closure, the only thing he had to do was giving the order. Hammond asks for a further minute. Then Chulak again, the guards on the hill recognize advancing Goa'uld soldiers with the binoculars.
40.5 sec



Original Version
Extended shot of Daniel looking for the note with the gate coordinates, the arriving enemy is still being watched by the guards with the binoculars.
10 sec



Original Version
The soldier transmitts to Kawalsky that it was an entire battalion, approx. 400 meters distance. Then they take their position.
4.5 sec



Original Version
Daniel can't still find the coordinates, Sam tells him to hurry.
4 sec



Original Version
Comepletely missing in the Final Cut: Samuels presses General Hammond to make a decision, so he gives the order to seal the gate and block the transmitter.
17.5 sec



Final Cut
Directly after the wormhole at the gate on Chulak opened, we see the Stargate Center, where the hole is open now as well. A nice littly "double effect".
1.5 sec



Original Version
Samuels informs Hammond about the open wormhole on the other side. The General changes his already-given orders.
12 sec



Original Version
Shot of the closed gate.
2 sec



Original Version
The Iris of the gate opens.
3 sec



Final Cut
Kawalsky tells Carter to get her people out of there at once, then he leaves his cover. Sam asks Daniel to give her a minute before he sends the first escapees through, then he goes down the stairs.
6 sec



Original Version
Kawalsky pushes the button a third time, followed by further explosions and dying enemies.
3 sec



Original Version
Graphical shot of an escaping woman being killed by a laser ray in the back.
3 sec



Final Cut
An escapee starts to pick up stones.
3 sec



Final Cut
The escapee tosses the stones to the enemies, O'Neill watches excitedly.
3.5 sec



Final Cut
After a slow motion shot of a dying Goa'uld, who gets shot by Casey's gun fire in the Original Version, the escapee seems to be delighted and O'Neill says "Cool!"
2 sec



Original Version
Somebody warns against further enemies on the left flank (from the off). They storm to the gate immediately and start shooting.
5.5 sec



Almost at the end of the finale sequence, two killing scenes have been edited to make it more family-friendly.

Original Version:Final Cut:



Original Version:Final Cut:



Original Version
Additional shot of Casey going down.
1.5 sec



Final Cut
Kawalsky raises, pulls a weapon and starts shooting at the enemies.
3 sec



Original Version
Earlier attack of a Goa'uld soldier from the back by the remaining escapee.
2.5 sec



Original Version
The larva of the killed Goa'uld soldier comes out of its host's belly, gets Kawalsky's neck and takes possession of him.
Due to the fact the Final Cut was supposed to work as a stand-alone movie, the end shouldn't be too open. That's why the versions are different here.
7.5 sec



Original Version
Shot of Harriman and a pan shot of the astonished-looking General. Carter goes to Teal'c, who passes him his weapon.
8 sec



Original Version
The effect of the trip in the wormhole has been added here.
7 sec


Different order of the scenes plus alternate angles at the Stargate Center. The scenes with the Goa'uld possessed by Kawalsky have been removed for the already explained reason.

Original Version:2 min 42 sec
Final Cut:2 min 26 sec





Original Version
Shot of the ramp with the save escapees and Sam & O'Neill are right in the middle of it.
3 sec



Original Version
Shot of Sam and Daniel.
2.5 sec



Original Version
Extended shot of Kawalsky bending on the ramp. O'Neill wants to know if everything was fine, what is being confirmed by Kawalsky who sounds more or less convincing.
12 sec



Original Version
Kawalsky looks up the gate, comes down the ramp, rests in front of the camera and gets the Goa'uld-typical glowing in his eyes before the credits start.
15 sec




The credits are different in both versions. In the Original Version, the credits are being displayed one by one (like in the following series). The Final Cut contains continous credits and some notes about the restauration team. Furthermore the credits contain a dedication note to the late Don S. Davis.

Original Version:1 min 13 sec
Final Cut:2 min 18 sec





Final Cut
Before the actual credits begin, a dedication note to the late Don S. Davis (General Hammond), who died in 2008.
6 sec




Original Version:Final Cut:




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