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Troy

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  • Theatrical Version
  • Director's Cut (1/2)
Release: Oct 22, 2010 - Author: KoRn - Translator: Tony Montana - external link: IMDB
Paris (Orlando Bloom), the deeply in love prince of Troja, deports the Spartan Queen Helena (Diane Kruger) to his homeland. The Spartan King Menelaos (Brian Gleeson) can't accept this insult. Under the direction of his brother Agamemnon (Brian Cox), the mighty king of Mycenea, other kings team up to destroy Troy, among them the famous warrior Achilles (Brad Pitt). Agamemnon's main motive is not to rehabilitate his brother but his greed: the fall of Troy would be a huge victory for him and ensure the supremacy of an already big empire. Under the direction of the violent prince Hector (Eric Bana), the walls of Troy can sustain much better than the Greeks expected....


With a worldwide box-office result of almost $500 million, the movie can be considered a huge success, even though the critics weren't that good.
Wolfgang Petersen paid almost $3 million for the new Director's Cut and worked on it with approx. 40 associates for three months because he didn't agree with the Theatrical Version. Due to the producers' pressure and a very tight schedule, the movie was completed pretty fast. There wasn't much time for the score either, that's why a lot of music has been edited or changed for the Director's Cut.
It recently became in vogue to release a Director's Cut, an Extended Version, an Unrated Version or whatever on DVD. Often it's just a rip-off and the name arouses wrong expectations, but not here. The new Director's Cut of Troy completes many parts of the story line. The characters are much more interesting and many subplots are more suspense-packed, even though the Director's Cut is longer. This is finally a Director's Cut that lives up to his name, definitely a recommendation for anyone who likes epic slaughter movies.


To keep track, only the really important differences have screens. Unimportant stuff like different shots of the actors or earlier-beginning/extended scenes, that are also in the Theatrical Version, are mentioned of course, but without screens. Nevertheless this comparison became so big that it had to be split up in two parts. Be that as it may, the comparison is pretty clear and I hope the faithful readers of movie-censorship.com enjoy reading. Have fun.


Director's Cut: 03:08.00 min credits included
Theatrical Version: 02:36.06 min credits included

Director's Cut: 02:57.37 min credits excluded
Theatrical Version: 02:26.44 min credits excluded

Compared are the German DVD (Theatrical Version) by Warner Home Video (FSK 16) and the German DVD (Director's Cut) by Warner (FSK 16).

Naming all differences would be impossible. According to the running times = 1853 sec (30 min 53 sec)


Comparison Troja Director's Cut Part 1
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01.29
The Theatrical Version starts with a shot of the landscape, followed by a longer black screen. Then a shot of the army.
34 sec



01.26
First a dog on the battle field in the Director's Cut. It looks like he finds his dead master and licks his face. Then a shot of the army.
75 sec



03.46
Director's Cut:
Additional shot of the army.
5 sec



04.27
The old man isn't finished yet. He also says to Agamemnon he had told him the day before and he told him at that point again.
Then the statement where he tells him to draw back his army, which he says in the Theatrical Version at once.
5 sec



04.41
After Agamemnon mentions he liked his soldiers as well, he also says in the Director's Cut the soldier had fought bravely. Not very well but bravely.
4 sec



05.14
After Agamemnon says they would retreat if the best of the old men won, he keeps on talking in the Director's Cut. He also explains he was a generous man and if Agamemnon's man won, he could keep the crown but he was going to call the shots in Tescalia. He also wants everybody to fight with him whenever he wants them to.
14 sec



05.47
After Boagrius (the beefcake) stepped forward, the old man also says he was his man in the Director's Cut.
2 sec



06.17
When the boy rides back to get Achilles for the fight, the tracking shot of the tents starts earlier.
3 sec


Theatrical Version: 05.57
Director's Cut: 06.22
More explicit shot of the two nude women, who are sleeping at Achilles'.
No difference

Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




Theatrical Version: 07.06
Director's Cut: 08.34
In the Theatrical Cut, Nestor says to Achilles he (Achilles) could save her. Then a shot of Agamemnon. The Director's Cut only contains a shot of Nestor.
No difference

08.38
In the Director's Cut, Nestor also says he should consider how many countries were going to sing for his honors.
4 sec

09.04
With reference to Achilles, Nestor also tells the king they needed him. Agamemon says they needed him for the moment.
5 sec



Theatrical Version: 09.33
Director's Cut: 11.13
Different shot of Hector and Paris at Menelaus' festivity. The Director's Cut only contains a shot of Menelaus.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 09.51
Director's Cut: 11.30
A shot of Helena in the Theatrical Version, a shot of Menelaus in the Director's Cut.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 10.07
Director's Cut: 11.46
Different shot from Helena's and Paris' table at the festivity in the Theatrical Version. A shot of Menelaus in the Director's Cut instead.
Theatrical Version: 7 sec
Director's Cut: 5 sec

12.13
The conversation between Hector and Menelaus is longer in the Director's Cut. Menelaus says there was freedom and he'd seen many men die killed by Victor. Only Achilles was an even better warrior and would also fight against gods. Then Melenaus, he tries to con him into some prostitutes but Victor refuses his offer thankfully. He adds he had a wife and the Greek wine was nothing to sneeze at.
49 sec



13.33
Extended shot of Hector's serious face after Paris followed Helana.
2 sec

Theatrical Version: 11.08
Director's Cut: 13.42
Different shot of Helena in the Theatrical Cut in her room and Paris comes in. The Director's Cut contains different angles.
Theatrical Version: 7 sec
Director's Cut: 9 sec

Theatrical Version: 11.18
Director's Cut: 13.54
New shot of Helena in the Theatrical Version, followed by a shot of Paris. Then Helena again. The Director's Cut contains a shot of Paris (and only her) but Helena appears later.
Theatrical Version: 6 sec
Director's Cut: 5 sec.

Theatrical Version: 11.43
Director's Cut: 14.19
Only Helena in the Theatrical Version, the Director's Cut contains an additional shot of Paris.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 11.47
Director's Cut: 14.29
A shot of Paris in the Theatrical Version. He wants to know if he should go, but Helena just gets up without saying anything. In the Director's Cut, it's only Helena. Paris asks if he should go, but this time she also says "Yes". Then she gets up.
Theatrical Version: 2 sec
Director's Cut: 3 sec

14.35
After Helena got up, they kiss in the Director's Cut. Then he asks her where he was supposed to go. She just tells him to go back where he came from.
17 sec



Theatrical Version: 11.55
Director's Cut: 14.55
Theatrical Version:
Shot of Helena's front, she grabs the straps of her blouse. The Director's Cut contains an extended shot of Helena's back. Then she grabs her blouse.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 12.00
Director's Cut: 14.59
The nipples are only in the Director's Cut, not in the Theatrical Version. Besided that, the scene is the same. It's uncertain if this is intended censorship or not.
No difference

Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




15.30
Extended shot of Agamemnon cuddling with the hooker in the Director's Cut.
6 sec



Theatrical Version: 12.30
Director's Cut: 15.36
Additional scene when Paris raises the necklace in front of Helena's bed in the Theatrical Version. The scene is different and more explicite in the Director's Cut.
Theatrical Version: 11 sec
Director's Cut: 29 sec

Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




Theatrical Version: 13.09
Director's Cut: 16.33
Theatrical Version:
Shot of Helena in the Theatrical Version, additional shot of Paris in the Director's Cut.
No difference

16.51
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Paris.
2 sec

17.01
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Paris and Helena.
3 sec

17.26
Again an extended shot of Helena and Paris in the Director's Cut. He wipes one of her tears away, then they kiss.
10 sec



17.36
Director's Cut:
After the festivity, a lot of drunken people on the ground. Someone strikes up a song. Hector talks to one of his soldiers, he tells him to make a sacrifice to Poseidon before they're off to the sea. The soldier wants to know if goat or pig. Then Paris, he comes down the stairs from Helena's room. Hector calls him and tells him to go to bed early because they still had a long way wo go. Hector hints at the flirt with Helena. He warns of Menelaus' and Agamemnon's power and says it could end up really ugly if he exaggerated. He adds Paris was his brother, but he'd rip off his cute face from his skull if he jeopardized Troy.
108 sec



Theatrical Version: 14.02
Director's Cut: 19.30
Theatrical Version:
On board, Hector carves a lion figure, Paris comes along. The Director's Cut contains a shot of the sail blowing in the wind, then Paris comes along and goes to Hector.
Theatrical Version: 6 sec
Director's Cut: 4 sec

20.34
Director's Cut:
A shot of Hector's terrified face after Paris showed Helena, who's hidden below deck.
4 sec

21.02
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Menelaus asking the waiting girl for Helene (until the fisher is being brought in).
5 sec

15.30
Theatrical Version:
Additional shot of the captured fisher.
2 sec

21.09
Director's Cut:
After the fisher revealed Paris had taken Helena with, an extended shot of Menelaus before he tells her to prepare his ship.
5 sec


Theatrical Version: 17.24
Director's Cut: 23.00
Alternate shot of Menelaus entering the temple.
Theatrical Version: 6 sec
Director's Cut: 3 sec


Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




23.47
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Menelaus before he implores Agamemnon to help him to go to war with Troy.
1 sec

24.03
Director's Cut:
Agamemnon also says he was a man of honor. Menelaus says the Trojan messed with his honor and everybody, who'd insulted him, had also insulted Agamemnon and all the other Greeks.
13 sec



Theatrical Version: 18.36
Director's Cut: 24.24
Theatrical Version:
After the convenant was sealed, Agamemnon and Menelaus hug. Different angle of the scene in either of the versions.
Theatrical Version: 3 sec
Director's Cut: 5 sec

24.39
In the Director's Cut, Agamemnon says nothing could be better to reunite people than a common enemy.
4 sec



Theatrical Version: 18.48
Director's Cut: 24.43
Different angles of the conversation between Agamemnon and Nestor.
No difference

25.11
Director's Cut:
Nestor keeps on talking. He says the walls of Troy could sustain a 10-year-attack. Agamemnon answers there wasn't going to be a siege.
5 sec



Theatrical Version: 19.23
Director's Cut: 25.25
Theatrical Version:
Shot of Nestor, who says they needed Achilles to win. He also mentions that in the Director's Cut, but offscreen.
No difference

19.32
Close-up of Agamemnon. He says Achilles couldn't be directed in the Theatrical Version. He also mentions that in the Director's Cut, but here we have a shot of Agamemnon's back.
No difference

26.26
Director's Cut:
Extended conversation in the Director's Cut. Nestor also says he was going to send a sheriff the next day, then leaving Agamemnon.
6 sec



26.32
Alternate story extension in the Director's Cut.
Ithaca Greece: two soldies asks a shephard for Odysseus. He talks very negative about him. Apparently help from the shephard can't be expected, so both of them plan to leave. It turns out the shephard himself is Odysseus. They inform him Agamemnon wants them to help him fighting the Trojans.
88 sec



28.00
Director's Cut (Phita Greece): Achilles is working out with his cousin Patroclus. The tracking shot starts earlier.
4 sec

28.11
Extended tracking shot in the Director's Cut.
4 sec

28.26
Extended shot of Achilles working out in the Director's Cut.
16 sec



20.42
Theatrical Version:
A shot of galloping horses at the same time when Achilles is working out.
6 sec



Theatrical Version: 21.35
Director's Cut: 29.29
The conversation between Odysseus and Achilles is different. First a shot of Achilles, then a close-up of Odysseus in the Theatrical Version whereas the Director's Cut contains a distance shot of this scene.
No difference

21.41
Theatrical Version:
Close-up of Odysseus when he tells Patroclus he'd known his parents very well and he missed them.
2 sec

29.39
Director's Cut:
Close-up of Patroclus.
2 sec

Theatrical Version: 21.46
Director's Cut: 29.45
Theatrical Version: the camera sticks with Odysseus. He says he was going to be apprenticed to Achilles himself.
The Director's Cut contains a close-up of Achilles instead.
No difference

29.52
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Odysseus before he wants to talk to Achilles in private.
2 sec

Theatrical Version: 22.06
Director's Cut: 30.06
Theatrical Version:
Close-up of Odysseus plus the scene's been cut differently. But except that, the Theatrical Version is identical with the Director's Cut, which contains a distance shot of everyone.
No difference

22.23
Theatrical Version:
Close-up of Odysseus. He blames Achilles for only caring about war.
2 sec

30.25
Director's Cut:
Close-up of Achilles. He wants to know if he was the whore of the battle field and tosses the sword to Patroclus.
4 sec



30.31
Director's Cut:
Achilles also says he didn't want to know if they believed him that he'd been a soldier of a tyrant or not.
3 sec



30.51
Director's Cut:
Patroclus asks if Ajax was going to fight in Troy or not. Then an earlier beginning of the training fight before Achilles hits his butt with the sword.
7 sec



30.59
Director's Cut:
After the butt smacking, Achilles tosses the sword away. Then an ealier beginning of the shot of Odysseus.
6 sec



Theatrical Version: 22.48
Director's Cut: 31.15
Theatrical Version:
Extended shot of Achilles' face when Patroclus asks if Prince Hector really was such a good warrior. The Director's Cut contains a medium long shot of him here.
No difference

31.21
Extended shot of Odysseus' face in the Director's Cut.
1 sec

Theatrical Version: 23.23
Director's Cut: 31.50
Theatrical Version:
Close-up of Achilles. The Director's Cut shows Odysseus all the time. He mentions neither war was going to be forgotten once again (which is also in the Theatrical Version) nor the heroes who'd fought it.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 23.28
Director's Cut: 31.55
Theatrical Version:
Achilles walks away from Odysseus. In the Director's Cut, Achilles is farer away plus the Director's Cut is slightly extended here.
Theatrical Version: 3 sec
Director's Cut: 5 sec

32.27
Extended shot of Achilles approaching to his mother.
2 sec

24.08
Theatrical Version:
Earlier beginning of the next shot.
4 sec

32.40
Director's Cut:
Different shot of the mother.
6 sec

Theatrical Version: 24.14
Director's Cut: 32.48
Theatrical Version:
Additional shot that shows her getting a shell in the water. The Director's Cut shows the mother the entire time.
No difference

33.07
Director's Cut:
Earlier shot of the mother before she says he'd find peace if he stayed there.
3 sec

Theatrical Version: 24.33
Director's Cut: 33.14
Theatrical Version:
Cut to Achilles. In the Director's Cut, the camera sticks with the mother.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 24.42
Director's Cut: 33.23
Shot of the mother in the Theatrical Version, shot of Achilles in the Director's Cut.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 25.06
Director's Cut: 33.48
Theatrical Version:
Shot of Achilles, the mother says the world was going to remember his name. The Director's Cut sticks with the mother all the time.
No difference

34.11
Director's Cut:
After his mother said he wasn't going to return from Troy alive, he also wants to know if she was certain. She confirms she was.
9 sec



Theatrical Version: 25.38
Director's Cut: 34.28
Theatrical Version:
Dissolve and an additional tracking shot of Achilles on a galley, then a shot of a fleet. The Director's Cut begins with the fleet, then the tracking shot of Achilles, no dissolve.
No difference

35.48
Director's Cut:
Arrived in Troy, there being welcomed exultantly. Earlier beginning of the shot of Pais before he looks at Helena.
1 sec

36.45
King Priamus weclomes his sons, in the Director's Cut he holds her head for a longer period.
1 sec

36.54
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Helena when Paris introduces himself to her.
2 sec

37.01
Director's Cut:
Another additional shot of Helena.
2 sec



37.17
King Priamus admires her beauty. In the Director's Cut, she also thanks him for getting complimented.
3 sec



37.41
Hector welcomes his wife and his son. In the Director's Cut, she he was as strong as his father.
4 sec



Theatrical Version: 28.40
Director's Cut: 37.45
Theatrical Version:
Additional shot of Briseis coming down the stairs, on her way to Paris. This scene has been differently edited in the Director's Cut.
Theatrical Version: 23 sec.
Director's Cut: 37 sec.

29.03
Theatrical Version:
Earlier beginning of the tracking shot of the palace.
3 sec



29.42
Theatrical Version:
The conversation between Hector and King Priamus about Helena has been edited for the Director's Cut.
No difference

39.33
In the Director's Cut, Hector mentions he'd become lord of the seas if Agamemnon conquered Troy.
3 sec



39.59
In the Director's Cut, Priamus tells Hector a story. When Hector was a kid, he suffered scarlet fever and the healer said he wasn't going to make it until the next day. Priamus prayed to the gods the entire night and indeed, he was doing better the following day. The gods were on her side and he'd be involved in thousands of fights to save Paris. Hector responds it wasn't him who'd fight and leaves.
57 sec



40.55
Director's Cut:
Additional scene before Helena looks at the sea. Paris walks restlessly up and down in her house.
14 sec



Theatrical Version: 30.45
Director's Cut: 41.11
Theatrical Version:
Shot of Helena's front. In the Director's Cut: shot of the sea, then a medium long shot of Helena and Paris. She says the wind brought them (the Greeks) closer and closer.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 31.07
Director's Cut: 41.33
Theatrical Version:
Close-up of Helena, then Paris. When Paris talks about their plans to leave, she says that'd been her home. He says she'd given it up for him.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 31.20
Director's Cut: 41.48
Close-up of Helena sitting down. Instead a distance shot of both of them in the Director's Cut.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 31.27
Director's Cut: 41.56
Theatrical Version:
Close-up of Helena.
No difference

Theatrical Version: 31.42
Director's Cut: 42.10
Theatrical Version
Helena from a different angle. Refering to Agamemnon, she says he didn't know his brother.
No difference

42.39
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of her gloomy face when Paris decides to deliver herself up to Menelaus to protect Troy and Helena.
4 sec

42.47
Director's Cut:
After Helena told him he was too young, he responds to Paris they were the same age. She replies she'd never been as young as he was.
12 sec



43.27
Priamus prays to Apolon, his god, in the temple. The close-up starts earlier in the Director's Cut.
2 sec

43.35
Director's Cut:
Furthermore an additional shot of Apolon's statue.
3 sec



43.43
Director's Cut:
Additional shot of the Trojan warriors preparing for the attack on the beach.
8 sec



44.21
Director's Cut:
Bresies tosses an additional fistful in the fire.
2 sec



44.36
Director's Cut:
Shot of the residents of Troy on a bazar, a gunsmith makes a swords. People collect weapons, an army marches on the market square, then a Priest praying to the gods for victory.
10 sec



33.48
Theatrical Version:
Shot of Hector's serious face, then his wife and the baby.
5 sec

46.10
Paris hears the alarm bell as well and runs to the house. Extended shot of Helena watching him in the Director's Cut.
2 sec

47.26
The residents of Troy on the run. A soldier on his horse arrives. The scene starts earlier in the Director's Cut.
2 sec

48.04
After Hector got informed about the combat strength of his army, he orders one of the officers to arrange a searching of all the houses and bring all people out of town, behind the walls.
12 sec



Theatrical Version: 37.00
Director's Cut: 49.30
Different angles of Hector's cheering crowd during his speech before the big battle.
No difference

Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




50.50
The Greeks under an arrow attack. A soldier gets hit in the leg. The Director's Cut contains an extended shot of the soldier's attempt to remove the arrow, then he finally falls down.
1 sec



38.27
Theatrical Version:
A Greek gets hit and falls off the ship.
1 sec



50.58
Director's Cut:
A very bloody shot of a Greek getting hit in his mouth and chest.
1 sec



51.02
Achilles storming the beach. In the Director's Cut, a soldier behind him gets bloodily hit in his mouth.
2 sec



38.32
Theatrical Version:
An unbloody shot of a hit in the chest.
1 sec




Theatrical Version: 39.12
Director's Cut: 51.43
A Trojan tosses a spear to Achilles' amored unit. In the Director's Cut, a Greek gets bloodily hit in the eye. In the Theatrical Version instead, the spear bounces off the shields. To make it up, only the Theatrical Cut contains an additional shot of the fighting warriors.
No difference





Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:



52.03
Director's Cut:
Achilles pushes his enemy's shield away. That's why he gets spitted by a dowel.
2 sec



39.31
Theatrical Version:
Here only the fighting soldiers instead.
2 sec

52.16
Director's Cut:
Agamemnon on his galley. His men cheer at Achilles, Agamemnon is scared that Achilles might outstrip him.
19 sec



40.02
Theatrical Version:
Shot of the beach.
2 sec




Theatrical Version: 40.12
Director's Cut: 53.05
A Greek kills a Trojan with a stone. There's no blood in the Theatrical Version, but there's a lot of it in the Director's Cut.
No difference



Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




53.12
Director's Cut:
Additional shot of Achilles running up the mountain.
2 sec



53.38
Director's Cut:
Ajax kills an enemy with a hammer, pretty bloody shot.
1 sec



53.39
Director's Cut:
Ajax mashes the head.
2 sec



53.44
Director's Cut:
Again Ajax. He screams he was the stone crusher and adds the enemies became desperate when they were looking at him.
8 sec



53.59
Director's Cut:
Achilles kills three enemies with the sword.
8 sec




Theatrical Version: 41.20
Director's Cut: 54.32
Achilles kills an enemy. The Theatrical Version is less bloody than the Director's Cut.
No difference


Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




54.41
Director's Cut:
Ajax yanks someone from his horse and squishes his head, offscreen but still bloody.
5 sec



41.29
Cheering Greeks on the ship in the Theatrical Version.
5 sec



54.47
Achilles rushes up the stairs and stabs an enemy. The Director's Cut contains an additional scene of him chopping off the leg.
3 sec



54.56
Director's Cut:
Close-up of Achilles stabbing the sword into a Greek's belly.
1 sec



55.16
Director's Cut:
Ajax breaks a horse's leg and brings his enemy down with it.
3 sec



55.25
Director's Cut:
Further thick of the battle.
4 sec



55.36
Director's Cut:
The Greeks kill some Trojans.
2 sec



55.49
Director's Cut:
Earlier beginning of the scene when the Greeks are running up the stairs.
3 sec

Theatrical Version: 42.46
Director's Cut: 56.13
After Achilles beheaded the Apolon statue, some people on a horse arrive. This scene is different in either of the versions.
Theatrical Version: 15 sec
Director's Cut: 13 sec

Theatrical Version: 43.10
Director's Cut: 56.39
Director's Cut:
Close-up of riding Hector, which is slightly different in the Theatrical Version.
No difference

56.49
Achilles tosses the spear to Hector's men and hits one of them. Close-up of the one who got hit leathally, blood runs out of his mouth.
2 sec




Theatrical Version: 43.22
Director's Cut: 56.54
The soldier's body is more blood-smeared in the Director's Cut.
No difference

Theatrical Version:
Director's Cut:




57.41
After the Trojans were being ambushed, a soldier has to take a bloody headshot in the Director's Cut.
1 sec



57.53
Director's Cut:
Hector kills an enemy.
2 sec



57.58
Director's Cut:
Hector kills a fallen Greek on the stairs.
2 sec



58.06
Extended shot of the killed priests lying on the ground in the Director's Cut. Then Hector's angry face, he looks around in the room.
14 sec



44.37
Theatrical Version:
Achilles talks to Hector out fo the dark.
3 sec



58.37
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Hector's face before he says to Achilles the killed priests had been unarmed.
2 sec

58.41
Director's Cut:
Achilles replies killing old men wasn't honorable. Hector says only children and fools fought for honor, he fought for his country.
12 sec



45.06
Theatrical Version:
Additional shot of Hector following Achilles.
3 sec



59.18
Director's Cut:
Extended shot of Hector walking down the stairs. Then he asks Achilles why he'd come to Troy.
1 sec

59.24
Director's Cut:
Again a slightly earlier beginning of the shot of Hector before he says the dusts of her bones would be blown away in a thousand years anyway.
1 sec

01:00.57
Director's Cut:
Agamemnon and Menelaus leaving the ship after the battle. Full of suspicion, they see the men cheering at Achilles.
8 sec

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