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Tom yum goong (2/2)

original title: Tom yum goong

Comparison:

  • Italian/French Version
  • Thai Version
Release: Mar 06, 2011 - Author: Muck47 - Translator: DaxRider123 - external link: IMDB
- Run Time: 86:33 min [PAL] (82:28 min without credits)
- 324 cuts
- 20 cuts because of violence
- 4 alternative scenes
- 17 re-cuts
- 18:50 min difference (1130 sec) [PAL]



Comparison between the shortened Italian/French Version and the uncut version.


Anyone who ever saw a Tony Jaa movie should expect nothing else but an action-packed flick where the story itself rather plays a minor part of the movie - the same goes for "The Protector". However, the movie received mixed feelings when the studios announced that the European version will be 20 minutes shorter and that all of these cuts were made to trim down the plot. on the one hand, fans were happy to have all the action sequences, on the other hand most of the fans argued that - due to the cuts - the movie doesn't make too much sense anymore. However, both is only half true.
Let's put it this way: They could have taken out even more of the scenes that still made it in the movie (e.g. some of the news segments) and the synchronization is - as usual for many Asian movies - a catastrophy. All things considered, the plot of the uncut version is not really more sophisticated. It still includes issues that stay unresolved (e.g. the sudden disappearance of the capoeira fighter) and some storylines are just brought up and then not developed any further. Therefore, an interested viewer should not expect too much (regarding the plot) - therefore it is more interesting to have a look at cuts due to censorship. It's hard to decide which of the cuts were made due to censorship and wich ones were just cut out along with the respective part of the plot. However, some of the cuts still tone down the violence (some of these scenes include violence against women or animals or shorter fighting sequences). Therefore, as a matter of fact, the European versions do not only miss out on plot sequences, they also include several cuts that were made to censor the violence. Cu due to censorship (resp. those that look like that) are marked red, re-cuts and alternative scenes (the French/Italian version actually offers 3 scenes of additional footage - 4 if you count the different logos) are written italic.

And just if you're wondering - YES! There acutally are 324 cuts! However, these cuts also include several short cutbacks where they only cut out a few frames at the beginning or the end of a scene. If The Protector was an older movie that lost several frames over the years because of the bad source material one would proabably not even talk about it. However, since we talk about a relatively recent movie, we have to assume that the studios tried to cut away as much of the movie as possible to trim the movie's run time down. There are several parts of the movie where the cuts actually do disturb the flow of the movie but most of the time you won't even recognize it. Since we want to present you a complete report for that movie, we did include all these short cutbacks. Since the average readers will probably not be too interested in these short alterations, they are written in a small font to make the report a little more lucid. The report won't mention auditory censorship, but generally you can say that bone fractures sound way more harmless in the French and Italian version (even though you have to admit that the uncut version used very overdone soundeffects [which - surprisingly enough - were also censored for the Thai soundtrack on the French/Italian DVD]).

The version that was used for this report is the German DVD released by e-m-s. Apart from the beginning logos it is identical to the French and probably also the Italian version of the movie (which has the same run time). Several internet sources also name a Spanish TV version that is supposed to be identical to those versions as well. However, not every European country received a shortened version. Just as for Ong-Bak, they in the UK only released the uncut version of the movie.
Surprisingly enough, the USA offers the shortest version of them all with an NTSC runtime of 81 minutes. This version offers different cuts that most of the time were made at different parts of the movie. Then again, the Special Edition release offered a second disc that included the original uncut version.
The HK-VCD is also censored at several at several points of the movie.


The time designations always refer to the French/Italian version.
All the information about the runtime of the cuts are in PAL speed.



Part 2: 40:37 - End
In the second half of the move you can find some more cuts that tone down the violence of the move (while the first part of the movie rather missed out on plot sequences).


Jump to the first part of the comparison: Part 1
40:37
A missing close-up shot of Pla's face.
1.3 sec



40:41
Again, a close-up shot, this time you see the eyes.
1.8 sec



40:45
Again, this time you see the mouth.
1.8 sec

40:56
And now the eyes again.
1.6 sec

41:00
She propositions him a little longer.
3.5 sec



41:10
The camera pans along her body.
2.4 sec



41:41
After the guy asked for his medicine you see a shot of Pla who seems rather confused.
1.6 sec



41:44
Shorter scene transition.
1.2 sec


41:46
This part of the movie was re-cut in a complicated way: You don't see Pla looking for the guy's medicine inside his jacket (this scene follows a little later). Instead, you directly see the glass wall - somebody slowly comes closer. However, this scene only lasts 38 frames. In the uncut version, she first looks for the tablets, then follows the scene of the guy slowly coming closer (which is shown longer). You even see the guy appearing behind the wall.
5.8 sec



41:47
In the uncut version, the guy appears on the right side of the glass wall.
2.7 sec



41:47-41:50
Now you see a trimmed version of the scene where Pla looks for the tablets.
+ 3 sec => 2.8 sec difference (5.8sec-3sec)

41:58
At first, the camera is shown minimally longer, followed by a shot of the unhinged Pla. The French/Italian version shows the latter scene a little later.
2.9 sec



42:02
Shorter scene transition.
1 sec


42:09
Ditto.
1.2 sec


42:15
In the uncut verison there's a panning shot from Mark to the crooked police officer.
5.4 sec

42:18
Shorter scene transition.
1.2 sec


42:19
Ditto.
1.2 sec


42:20
Ditto.
1 sec


42:22
Ditto.
0.4 sec


42:30
Ditto.
0.6 sec


42:43
Ditto.
0.3 sec


42:47-42:56
The order of the scene was completely altered. However, the French/Italian version actually seems to have a better flow, since the scenes appear to be a little more consistent due to the 2 shots of Pla.
Uncut:
- Mark runs out the door
- Mark is shown inside the other room; he suddenly turns around and swoops for the vehicle
- The crooked cop shouts: "Bring him back!"
- The men come through the door
- Pla reaches for the camera

French/Italian version:
- Mark runs out the door
- The crooked cop shouts: "Bring him back!"
- Mark is shown inside the other room; he suddenly turns around and swoops for the vehicle
- Now follows the shot of the unhinged Pla (from 41:58)
- The men come through the door
- Pla reaches for the camera

Even though they added 2 short scenes, the French/Italian version is about 2 seconds shorter (due to the well-known shorter scene transitions).
2.1 sec

43:19
In the French/Italian version, the movie directly cuts to the news report. There's a short missing scene of Tony dazedly wandering through the city.
13 sec



43:52
Shorter scene transition. The boy who was released by Mark is shown a little logner.
1.2 sec


44:02
Ditto.
1.6 sec


44:42
Ditto; the dogs are shown considerably longer.
2.5 sec


44:48
The bad guy is shown longer - he throws a ball. It lands on the girl's lap and the dogs are decoyed by it. She screams - followed by a short cut to Mark. Then the movie fades to shots of the ocean (the first of these shots is still missing in the French/Italian version which continues subsequent to that).
12.5 sec



45:09
Rose is shown longer, followed by an aerial shot.
6 sec



45:32
A short missing shot of Tony who watches Pla being led away (this is shown again shortly after this scene).
1.6 sec



45:35
Shorter scene transition.
0.9 sec


45:47
Ditto.
1 sec


45:52
The man looks at his watch from a different angle and says "I don't know what to do anymore." The prior shot is missing out on its last few frames.
4.7 sec



45:57
After the guys entered the "secret passageway" you don't see the waitress following them. Subsequently she's thrown out again by 2 men. She's led into a seperate room and moments later, the guy with the white hair appears.
17.3 sec



46:01
Shorter scene transition.
1.2 sec


46:37
Ditto (just before the movie would have passed the 4-minutes-without-a-cut-mark in the restaurant).
1.5 sec


50:53
The bad guys ridicule Tony (which is shown from 2 different angles), followed by a shot of customers enyoing their meal. Then we see Tony (from the "leg-perspective") screaming "Where´s my elephant?"
7.6 sec



51:13
A missing side view of Tony looking at the bell.
0.9 sec

51:16
Because of the huge power of the kick Tony just received he rebounds from the wall and is kicked again (shown from a different angle). The French/Italian version continues when he's kicked for the thrid (!) time.
1.4 sec



51:27
2 Shorter scene transitions closely in quick succession.
1.4 sec


51:28
And another one.
0.2 sec


51:38
Ditto.
0.9 sec


51:43
Ditto.
2.2 sec


52:01
Ditto.
1.2 sec


52:04
Ditto.
0.4 sec


52:20
Ditto.
0.6 sec


52:28
Ditto.
0.9 sec


52:35
Shorter scene transition or censorship? The guy whose foot Tony just stepped on convulses in pain a little longer.
1 sec



52:37
Shorter scene transition.
0.7 sec


52:42
Ditto.
0.5 sec


52:49
Johnny is hanging out of the door considerably longer. It turns to the left a little further so that it's completely opened. Then, Tony leaves the screen.
2.4 sec



52:53
Shorter scene transition.
2.5 sec


52:58
Ditto.
1 sec


53:39
In the French/Italian version now follows a cut while in the uncut version, Tony goes along the hallway way longer. He speechlessly looks at all the trapped animals, then angrily opens a cabinet base and then starts to scream in the same shot (the Italian/French version continues when he screams).
12.7 sec

54:01
Now follows a longer cut, probably also due to censorship: Tony springs to the left and grabs one of the bad guys by the hair. Then you see Johnny angrily entering a room where he holds Mark and the girl captive. He impulsively unties the girl and thenn drags her out of the room. Subsequent to that you see Tony finishing the guy he just grabbed by the hair off in a very brutal way (fierce kick against the head); then he whimpers a little.
29.9 sec



54:25
In the uncut version you see additional shots of Tony (who seems to be bewildered) as well as an additional shot of the women who are kept imprisoned (the shot looks very similar to the ones they decided to keep in the French/Italian cut).
5.8 sec

55:12
Shorter scene transition.
0.8 sec


55:18
Ditto.
0.8 sec


55:19
Ditto.
2.5 sec


55:30
Now follows a huge difference between the 2 versions: In the French/Italian version you now see Tony praying; then he soothes his elephant. At this point, the movie is missing out on 3 scenes (however, the first of these 3 follows a little later). At first you see the meeting where they talk about the future corporate management and you find out that Rose poisoned the two male candidates. As just mentioned, this scene follows later in the French/Italian version [at 56:47]. (No difference in time, since the scene follows later and in its entirety)

Subsequently follows a short news report which was not included in the French/Italian version. Basically, it talks about the illegal buisness in the Tom Yum Goong-restaurant - at this point they all have been sniffed out. The reporter says that the owner will be accused of selling and cooking endangered species. However, she says that it is even more shocking to find out that they captivated young girls from Thailand who then were sold as prostitutes. Chief inspector John Lamond comments this by saying that he couldn't say too much about it. He says that a great amount of Thai police officers are momentarily interrogating several witnesses talked about a Thai wearing a red scarf. (23.6 sec)


Subsequently follows a pretty long panning shot from Rose taking a bath to the back. There, we see Johnny sitting around and talking to Rose. He says that they at least still have the girl as a hostage. She only replies that Johnny doesn't understand her, even though they know each other for 10 years now. Their futer plans will be of epic proportions - and he isn't even able to take care of minor buisnesses like the one in the restaurant; and even though she now looks stupid because of him (not only because he let the "Thai loser" bug her) he still has the nerve to face her. She sends him away. The French/Italian version continues when the crooked cop enters the room. (45.7 sec)
69.3 sec



55:30-55:45
Tony prays and soothes the elephant. In the uncut version, this scene is included 4 minutes later (after you saw Rose and the crooked cop). Overall, the scene is 4.5 secons longer in the uncut version, since the French/Italian version postponed all the dissolves and scene transitions.
4.5 sec difference

56:14
After the crooked cop and Rose kissed, their dialogue is a little longer. Rose reacts to his offer that he could get her enemies out of her way.
"It's no big deal. My men will handle it."
"But what fun is merely watching the (?), when we can hunt it ourselves?"
They kiss again and Rose leaves the room.
16.5 sec



56:31
One of the crooked cops colleagues brutally tries to find out where Mark is hiding. He pushes one of the prostitutes against the wall, holds a syringe against her neck and chokes her with the other hand.
"Where is Mark? You tell me now!"
The prostitute rolls her eyes, then she falls to the ground (different angle). Then, the guy kicks her a little.
10.1 sec



56:46
The following scene was cut out even though its content is quite important. It is possible that it was cut out due to an incorrect translation:
You see shots of the praying people. Two of them whisper suspiciously. Mark hectically goes around the corner to Tony. In the German version they translated his sentence as follows:
German version: "Hey Kham! We need a truck to be able to transport Por Hay (=the elephant)."
Uncut: "Hey Kham! We can't stay here anymore."
Because of this error they probably figured the following scene to be unimportant:
Tony and Mark say goodbye to a monk.
Mark: "We wish to disturb you no longer. Thank you very much your holiness."
Monk: "Whatever you are hiding from, it's like a flame. Even if you run, your feet will still feel the heat."
Mark: "At least we will not be giving you any more troubles. We will leave now. Kham, let´s go!"
They give thanks to the monk.
By the way, in the Fernch/Italian version now follows the meeting scene from 55:30.
26.2 sec



57:00
Shorter scene transition.
1.4 sec


57:24
After the sentence "Sho Sarm is the brother of Lin and Shim" a woman says the following sentence: "That's a good idea; he just graduated from university in Europe. So I'm sure he can handle the business."
6 sec



58:15
The ending of the following scene was shortened as well. In the uncut version, Rose also says "I promise that I’ll do my best to take good care of everyone. I won’t let anyone down, and I won’t let my dad be ashamed. I am sure that everyone believes in me."
13.7 sec

58:27
Just before you see Tony and Mark, there's a short missing aerial shot (however, you can hardly see anything).
5.4 sec



58:36
In the French/Italian version the movie directly cuts to the injured monk lying on the floor; in the uncut version you at first see an exterior shot of the monastery, followed by a close-up shot of the smoke alarm.
3.6 sec



58:44
After the close-up shot of Tony, the three of them only in the uncut version run to the monk and try to help him up. Then follows anadditional shot of Tony.
4.8 sec



58:45
In the uncut version, they first carry out the monk before Tony delivers himself up to the fight.
3.3 sec



58:58
Just before the first clash the uncut version offers a shot of Tony's face.
0.7 sec



59:31
Again, a short missing shot of Tony.
1.6 sec

59:44
In the uncut version, the Capoeira fighter kicks Tony a little more often (pretty harmless).
1 sec



59:57
Shorter scene transition.
0.8 sec


60:00
Ditto.
0.9 sec


60:10
Ditto.
1.1 sec


60:17
Ditto; Tony falls to the ground in slow motion a little longer.
2.5 sec


60:54
Ditto.
0.8 sec


61:13
Ditto.
1 sec


61:38
Ditto.
0.7 sec


63:06
Ditto.
0.6 sec


63:19
Ditto; the guy curls a little longer.
2 sec


63:47
Ditto.
1 sec


63:52
Tony tries to attack the tall guy - in the uncut you see 2 different perspectives of this attempt.
1.2 sec



64:17
Shorter scene transition.
0.7 sec


64:56
Re-cut: in the uncut version, this sequence is a little longer (a police officer [?] is shown inside the parking garage with his produced gun) while in the French/Italian version, the rest of this sequence is inserted after teh shot of Pla (therefore 3 seconds later).
No difference in time.

66:48
Shorter scene transition.
0.5 sec


66:57
While in the uncut version there's a panning shot around Tony, they split this scene in 2 parts for the French/Italian version (at first you see Tony from the back, then from the front).
1.1 sec


67:04
There's a short missing shot of Tony behind the elephant in the hallway.
1.7 sec



67:07
Almost the exact same scene follows again.
0.4 sec

67:10
Shorter scene transition.
0.4 sec


67:25
When Mark (with his weapon produced) stands in front of the crooked cop, you in the French/Italian version don't see him kicking the opponent's face.
2.3 sec



67:38
After Mark threw the crooked cop against the door, you don't see the latter slumping to the ground, producing some blood trails on the door. Additionally, the following scene begins a little earlier.
5.3 sec



67:50
Shorter scene transition.
0.9 sec


68:09
In the French/Italian version, Johnny shoots once; in the uncut version, he shoots twice.
0.5 sec



68:21
At first, Mark and the crooked cop are shown longer. Then follows a shot of Johnny grinning; he lowers his gun. Subsequently you see the crooked cop lying dead on the floor.
11 sec



68:23
Shorter scene transition.
1.3 sec


69:32-70:00
Re-cut: Again, they split up a longer scene for the French/Italian version (resulting in a few missing frames here and there).
Uncut version: Tony is in despair and sinks to the floor in tears. Someone kicks against his head. Several men appear and attack him. Then follow some of Tony's childhood memories.
French/Italian version: Tony is in despair. Then follow a few flashbacks to his childhood with the elephant. Tony sinks to the floor and cries, then someone kicks against his head. Then the men appear and attack him.
For the duration of these scenes, look at the next 2 cuts.

69:56
Shorter scene transition.
0.7 sec


70:00
In the uncut version there's a dissolve to some of Tony's childhood memories. Since these scenes could be seen earlier in the French/Italian version, the frames of the dissolve are missing there. (1 sec)
After the childhood memories you in the uncut version see Tony being put through the mill by 2 guys. He's able to push one of them to the side. When you see the other one covertly standing behind him, the French/Italian version continues. (2.7 sec)
3.7 sec



70:45
2 guys hit and kick Tony (not very explicitly).
5.9 sec



71:24
Shorter scene transition.
0.7 sec


71:52
In the uncut version, Tony pushes his fingers in the guy's neck minimally longer.
0.5 sec



72:00
Shorter scene transition.
0.2 sec


72:27
Ditto.
0.5 sec


73:17
Tony again kicks in the attacker's (who carries the knife) face.
1 sec



73:32
After the (probably painful) "string scene", a longer part of the bone breaker fight was cut out. At first the string guy convulses in pain (shown from another angle). Then an offender attacks Tony with several kicks. However, Tony is able to dodge this attack, rushes the attacker off his feet and then (after another attack) dislocates the attacker's arm. After an impressive jump he kicks the guy in the face. Then, Tony dislocates another guy's arm and pulls this guy to the front. The next attacker is done in by a sideways somersault. He pulls the next one down with his leg - on the ground, Tony chokes him a little with his foot before breaking his neck.
22.8 sec



74:47
Shorter scene transition.
0.4 sec


74:59
Ditto.
0.5 sec


75:06
Before the closer shot, Tony hits the first "giant's" (Nathan Jones) head with his elbow.
2.2 sec



75:33
Shorter scene transition.
0.4 sec


75:52
Ditto.
0.8 sec


76:21
The complete scene of the elephant being thrown was cut out. After the three "giants" posed a little, you at first see Nathan - obviously harrassed because of the battle against Tony - faces Tony and confidently peeks at him. In that moment, the baby elephant enters the room and the other 2 tall guys immediately swoop down on it to grasp it. After several shots (screaming Tony) and countershots (Rose and the "giants") you at first see Nathan Jones throwing Tony through the room. Then, one of the tall guys does the same thing with the baby elephant. It smashes through a glass wall. Then you see one of the tall guys posing.
25.9 sec

76:43-76:48

It’s getting strange here: When Tony again starts dreaming as he lies unconsciously on the gorund, the shots of the posing "fantasy-warriors" from 38:45 (images see there) reimplemented – the speed was doubled, though – while the uncut version shows new shots of real warriors (soldiers?). The uncut version is about 2 sec longer here.

1.8 sec difference

Uncut:





77:16

Transition shortened

0.8 sec




78:47

ditto

0,9 sec




78:48

You see Tony longer stabbing the leg in a medium long shot (since you rather see he is stabbing beside it and the scene itself is also very short a bearable cut)

0,6 sec





78:51

Transition shortened

0,5 sec




79:27

ditto

0,5 sec




79:56

ditto; Tony is running longer in slow motion.

1,8 sec




80:09

ditto

1,3 sec




80:28

ditto; again more running in slow motion.

1,3 sec




80:31

ditto

0,6 sec




80:32

ditto

0,8 sec




81:32

The fade-in starts much earlier in the uncut version, so the tracking shot begins earlier and Rose is shown; she quickly leans to one side and then lowers her head again.

12,2 sec







Connotation: To some extent, the colours were altered in the It/Fr Version during the childhood memories.

Uncut:



Italian/French version:

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