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  • International Version - Part 2
Release: Mar 05, 2014 - Author: MajoraZZ - Translator: Tony Montana - external link: IMDB
Comparison between the US DVD (R-Rated) and the German DVD (FSK “Keine Jugendfreigabe / 18 and above”).


What can we say? Those of you who still remember the last, really nice report on the movie Cyborg written by Bob can probably guess already what's about to follow now. The two versions of The Flock also differ almost every second. Sometimes these are just some minor differences, like different shots from different angles, but every once in a while you'll get to see alternative footage for several minutes, which is not at all contained in the other version, or shown at another point in the movie. For example, among the first differences is a scene which is shown at the beginning of the International version, but was placed right at the end of the US version. The soundtrack is different throughout the whole movie, which is why these alterations won't be mentioned at all from here onwards. Though the soundtrack is quite similar at times, the instruments then differ.
The style of the movie is just not the same in the two versions. The US version tends to show long shots, and only switches back and forth between two or three shots most of the time. In contrast to that, the International version frequently uses only short shots, but cuts back and forth between five, six or seven different ones. Moreover, the International version often contains some visual effects, which the US version lacks completely.
Here are two rough comparisons to give you a clearer idea of the two versions: the editing of the US version is kind of similar to the style of the drama series Breaking Bad. On the other hand, the International version rather resembles the editing of the Saw movies with all the quick shots and visual effects, like white fades and fast zooms.
So everyone has to choose for themselves which version is to be preferred. The US version seems a bit more realistic and subtle, while the International version surely is edited in a professional way, but seems rather insincere and artificial. The US version has so far only been released in the USA.

Another point in reference to the statement “The International version seems more professional, but insincere” is the fact that they used an alternative color filter in the International version. This filter gives the picture a higher brightness value and also a higher contrast value, which is the reason why some shots that take place during dusk/dawn look as if they were shot in bright daylight in the International version.
Some examples:

International VersionUS Version




Censorship in the R-rated?

Another thing worth mentioning: the US version is censored very slightly. Sexual innuendos are definitely a bit defused; a brawl seems just a bit “weaker” in the US version. Moreover, a mutilated corpse is not that clearly visible in the US version as it is in the International version.
But one shot clearly stands out at the end of the movie. The International version contains a closer and more bloody shot at this point, while the US version shows this from further away and with almost no blood. Though these are only some minor alterations which don't spoil the movie in any way.


Let's get down to the nitty-gritty:

Running time US version: 96:28 minutes (NTSC)
Running time International version: 101:07 minutes (PAL)


202 differences:
- 119x alternative footage
- 36x extended scenes in the International version
- 21x extended scenes in the US version
- 13x additional footage in the International version
- 12x additional footage in the US version
- 1x altered audio track in the International version
Over-all difference in running time = 8 minutes and 52.4 seconds (NTSC)



Running time indications refer to the respectively indicated version.

PART 2





Alternative Footage
67:40 (International Version)
The International Version contains two additional shots. The third one though, at which point the versions are back in sync by the way, starts earlier in the US Version.
International Version 1.3 sec longer

International Version US



Alternative Footage
67:53 (International Version)
In the International Version, the first shot is three frames longer. As compensation, the following shot starts three frames earlier in the US Version.
no difference


Alternative Footage
67:54 (International Version)
Here, we have two shots at a different time index. The footage itself is the same but the order differs.
The following shot starts slightly earlier in the International Version.
International Version 0.4 sec longer



Extended Scene US Version
67:55 (International Version)
Four frames after the last identical scene, the versions differ again.
The same shot that starts earlier in the International Version is longer at the end of the US Version.
US Version 0.6 sec longer


Alternative Footage
68:06 (International Version)
Extended shot in the International Version but that’s pretty much it.
The US Version on the other hand contains an additional shot of the fight. Then a cut to the office. There are several shots of it. In the middle of a pan shot, the versions are back in sync.
US Version 10.5 sec longer

International Version US



Alternative Footage
68:12 (International Version)
Different shots in either of the versions for almost one minute.
International Version 9.3 sec longer


Alternative Footage
69:10 (International Version)
The first shot starts a few frames earlier in the International Version. As compensation, the following one starts earlier in the US Version.
US Version 0.3 sec longer


Extended Scene US Version
69:13 (International Version)
Allison earlier in the US Version.
US Version 1.2 sec longer



Alternative Footage
69:15 (KJ)
The first shot is longer in the US Version, the following one starts earlier in the US Version.
no difference


Extended Scene US Version
69:18 (International Version)
The US Version is a little longer.
US Version 0.7 sec longer


Extended Scene US Version
69:21 (International Version)
Ditto.
US Version 0.9 sec longer


Alternative Footage
69:13 (International Version)
Different shots again.
US Version 1.4 sec longer

International Version US



Extended Scene US Version
69:33 (International Version)
Allison longer in the US Version.
US Version 1 sec longer


Alternative Footage
69:35 (International Version)
First shot longer in the International Version, the following one earlier in the US Version.
US Version 0.3 sec longer


Alternative Footage
69:44 (International Version)
Different shots of the office. Then a scene in the International Version taken from an earlier point of the US Version. Gere certifies a map plus flashbacks of the rape scene at the same time.
The US Version contains a shot from an earlier point of the International Version: the actual rape scene.
US Version 44.8 sec longer

International Version US



Alternative Footage
70:42 (International Version)
Different shots again.
International Version 3.2 sec longer


Alternative Footage
71:17
Ditto.
no difference


Alternative Footage
71:24
Same shot with different visual effects (US Version – slowed down at the beginning / International Version – fades to white at the end).
no difference



Extended Scene International Version
72:55 (International Version)
Longer shot.
International Version 0.3 sec longer


Alternative Footage
75:24 (International Version)
The versions continue differently again:
The US Version shows Gere and Allison driving to a house where they find a wounded person. They want to know Harry whereabouts but the dead guy doesn’t respond. So they set off to the house. There are intercuts of a tied woman every now and then as well.
The International Version on the other hand contains entirely different shots. But the huge difference is: they do not find a wounded guy in the International Version. Instead, they’re instantaneously on their way to the house.
US Version 89.5 sec longer

International Version US



Alternative Footage
77:50 (International Version)
Longer shot plus earlier beginning of the following one in the International Version.
The US Version shows the tied up woman again.
US Version 1 sec longer


Extended Scene US Version
77:53 (International Version)
Longer shot in the US Version.
US Version 0.6 sec longer


Alternative Footage
78:56 (International Version)
Different interior shots of the house. Nothing outstanding.
US Version 12.6 sec longer


Alternative Footage
78:32 (International Version)
Ditto.
no difference


Additional Footage US Version
78:52 (International Version)
Further shots exclusively in the US Version.
US Version 24.7 sec longer


Extended Scene US Version
79:23 (International Version)
The shot is longer in the US Version plus Gere reaches for the doorknob.
US Version 1.2 sec longer


Alternative Footage
79:36 (International Version)
New shot of Gere in the International Version. The second shot starts earlier in the US Version.
International Version 1.1 sec longer


Alternative Footage
79:51 (International Version)
A few alternate shots of Gere.
US Version 6.4 sec longer


Alternative Footage
80:07 (International Version)
Same shot with more frames per seconds in the International Version.
US Version 0.5 sec longer


Alternative Footage
80:21 (International Version)
Alternate shot of the body. Could be censoring in the US Version.
no difference

International Version US



Alternative Footage
80:39 (International Version)
Most likely censoring:
While the US Version permanently sticks to Gere, the International Version cuts to the body.
no difference

International Version US



Alternative Footage
80:44 (International Version)
Another huge difference:
The International Version begins with different shots. Gere is attacked all of a sudden and the attacker escapes. Then Gere driving off. Not until then the scene with the wounded guy in the International Version.
At the same time, Gere is carrying the body out of the building in the US Version. He’s grieving. Last but not least, they’re driving off.
The following shots on the highway and at the gym differ until the moment Gere points his weapon at someone. Furthermore, there’s a scene of the thugs choosing the devices to mutilate the woman in the International Version – probably censoring in the US Version.
International Version 48.5 sec longer

International Version US



Alternative Footage
84:56 (International Version)
First shot longer in the International Version, the second one is different in either of the versions.
International Version 0.2 sec longer


Alternative Footage
84:41 (International Version)
US Version: Gere keeps threatening the people. He almost puts a bullet in a man’s and a woman’s head.
International Version: Gere intends to keep threatening the people but the black guy gets scared and intends to make a run for it. Allison stops him.
US Version 16.4 sec longer

International Version US



Alternative Footage
85:30 (International Version)
Alternate shots again.
International Version 1.4 sec longer


Alternative Footage
85:34 (International Version)
Ditto.
US Version 2.3 sec longer

Additional Footage in the US Version
85:44 (International Version)
Now the scene of the criminals searching their tools also comes up in the US version.
(No pictures, because they were already shown above for the International Version )
US 54.2 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
86:12 (International Version)
Different shots again.
US 1.7 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
86:36 (International Version)
Ditto.
US 6.3 sec. longer


Extended Scene in the International Version
86:44 (International Version)
This shot is longer in the International Version.
International Version 1.8 sec. longer



Alternative Footage
87:00 (International Version)
Different shots again; the International Version shows much more.
International Version 12.5 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
87:23 (International Version)
This shot was mirrored in one of the versions.
No difference in running time

International VersionUS



Alternative Footage
87:28 (International Version)
Different shots again; the International Version shows much more.
International Version 6.5 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
87:41 (International Version)
Different shots again, but this time the US versions shows more.
US 18.2 sec. longer


Extended Scene in the International Version
88:19 (International Version)
This shot is longer in the International Version.
International Version 1.5 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
88:31 (International Version)
Alternative shot of Gere.
No difference in running time


Additional Footage in the International Version
88:34 (International Version)
Additional shot in the International Version. Maybe censorship at this point in the US version.
International Version 1.2 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
88:36
Mirrored shot.
No difference in running time


Extended Scene in the International Version
88:57 (International Version)
This shot is longer in the International Version.
International Version 0.6 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
88:58 (International Version)
Alternative shots.
International Version 1.7 sec. longer


Additional Footage in the US Version
89:04 (International Version)
Allison is shown once more in the US version.
US 1 sec. longer




Alternative Footage
89:06 (International Version)
This shot is contained in both versions, but it has a visual echo effect in the International Version, while there are no effects at all in the US version.
No difference in running time


Alternative Footage
89:18 (International Version)
The gunshot is shown in another, bloodier shot in the International Version. This can probably be counted as censorship in the US version.
No difference in running time

International VersionUS



Additional Footage in the International Version
89:19 (International Version)
Additional shot of Allison in the International Version.
International Version 0.5 sec. longer




Alternative Footage
89:21 (International Version)
Both versions have the shot of Allison. It begins earlier in the US version, but the International Version shows it in a slower playback speed. After that, the US version contains a brief additional shot of the junkyard.
US 2.3 sec. longer


Extended Scene in the International Version
90:46 (International Version)
This shot is longer in the International Version.
International Version 0.9 sec. longer




Alternative Footage
90:55 (International Version)
Different shots.
International Version 3 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
91:04 (International Version)
Ditto.
International Version 3.7 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
91:17 (International Version)
These shots differ for about two minutes in the two versions.
International Version 37.6 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
93:21 (International Version)
Different shots again.
International Version 12.6 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
93:57 (International Version)
Ditto.
International Version 5.6 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
94:10 (International Version)
Ditto.
International Version 1.8 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
94:27 (International Version)
Ditto.
International Version 26.7 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
95:02 (International Version)
Both versions show the same shots, but they are cut differently.
International Version 1.1 sec. longer


Extended Scene in the International Version
95:11 (International Version)
This shot is longer in the International Version.
International Version 0.4 sec. longer



Alternative Footage
95:14 (International Version)
Again some different shots.
International Version 1 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
95:24 (International Version)
Ditto.
International Version 6 sec. longer


Additional Footage in the International Version
95:43 (International Version)
The car is only shown in the International Version.
International Version 3.7 sec. longer



Alternative Footage
95:50 (International Version)
Different shots again.
International Version 0.3 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
96:03 (International Version)
Ditto.
US 0.7 sec. longer


Extended Footage in the US Version
96:17 (International Version)
This shot is longer.
US 0.6 sec. longer



Alternative Footage
96:37 (International Version)
And the shots differ once again.
International Version 0.5 sec. longer


Alternative Footage
96:44 (International Version)
Ditto.
International Version 12.8 sec. longer


Extended Footage in the International Version
97:06 (International Version)
This shot is longer in the International Version.
International Version 1.7 sec. longer



Alternative Footage
97:11 (International Version)
Now to the last big difference:
Only the first shots differ initially, but then the versions go separate ways:

International Version: the kidnapped woman is now brought home by the police and there she hugs her parents. Then Allison is shown in her office all by herself. She's looking at some more missing person reports. After that, end credits, which aren't contained like that in the US version, start rolling.

US: Gere and Allison are shown standing at a grave together with two older persons; probably at a grave of one of the victims. Scene change to the office. Gere gets celebrated by his colleagues. Then he is shown sitting in a restaurant by himself. He is having a drink and circling some newspaper articles again. He then watches the last victim riding (shots that have already been shown at the beginning of the International Version). Eventually he is walking down a road.

The end credits are identical from this point onwards.
International Version 141.2 sec. longer

International VersionUS

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